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    #19
    What we honestly got wrong was letting them be in the shadows and not pursuing them to the ends of the earth. Will people learn this time? Probably not. We never really do. Fascism will always come back and there will never be much in the way.
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    • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

      Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

      We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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      #20

      @kristiedegaris Why do you think French people have their own everything US ever proposed ?

      Their general de Gaule, that became president later NEVER forgot the United State did not follow their promise to help them when hitler attacked (some plane where promised from memory).

      Even if US go out of this ... the world will never forget that the US put a knife in their "allie" back

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      • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

        Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

        We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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        #21

        @kristiedegaris There was a lesson to be learned from the rise & defeat of Nazi Germany.

        It should've been taken seriously.

        The people still can. And they should! Their voices & feet in the streets being the weapon of choice to defend their rule, their democracy!

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        • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

          @barrygoldman1 I hope the world gives me a reason to disagree.

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          #22

          @kristiedegaris i think it is healthier for us to understand ourselves rather than hide our heads under the sand! then we could at least try to heal from a place of reality.

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          • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

            Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

            We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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            #23

            @kristiedegaris

            The last rise of fascism had its funding & inspiration from The Moneyed of the UK & USA.

            Both empires never got over their hankering for colonialism, slavery & bigotry.

            Fascism had the same kind of financial backers then as now.

            1. Hitler got funding from Henry Ford & IG Farben

            https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/07/31/hate-speech/

            https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ford-and-fuhrer/

            https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/henry-ford-antisemitism-jacob-schiff-money-kings/

            2. The Duke of Windsor recommended bombing his own former London subjects & sold information on defenses ...

            1/

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @kristiedegaris

              The last rise of fascism had its funding & inspiration from The Moneyed of the UK & USA.

              Both empires never got over their hankering for colonialism, slavery & bigotry.

              Fascism had the same kind of financial backers then as now.

              1. Hitler got funding from Henry Ford & IG Farben

              https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/07/31/hate-speech/

              https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ford-and-fuhrer/

              https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/henry-ford-antisemitism-jacob-schiff-money-kings/

              2. The Duke of Windsor recommended bombing his own former London subjects & sold information on defenses ...

              1/

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              #24

              2/

              ... Franco, Vichy, Salazar, and the Nazis.

              https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-windsor-file

              https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

              https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/01/david-frum-show-fiona-hill-putin/685690/

              https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-board-of-peace-putin-un/33656659.html

              3. Standard Oil colluded with the Nazis

              https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-jewish-problem---from-anti-judaism-to-anti-semitism/arming-the-enemy-us-industry-hitler-and-the-holocaust-366097

              https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/

              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

              https://massivesci.com/articles/fossil-fuel-industry-oil-gas-white-supremacy/

              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

              4. Six newspaper moguls promoted the Axis. So did radio.
              https://aspectsofhistory.com/book_reviews/the-newspaper-axis-by-kathryn-a-olmsted/

              https://thebostonsun.com/2022/11/17/the-nazis-of-copley-square-a-talk-by-charles-gallagher/

              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/opinion/larry-ellison-paramount-cbs-tiktok.html

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                2/

                ... Franco, Vichy, Salazar, and the Nazis.

                https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-windsor-file

                https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

                https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/01/david-frum-show-fiona-hill-putin/685690/

                https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-board-of-peace-putin-un/33656659.html

                3. Standard Oil colluded with the Nazis

                https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-jewish-problem---from-anti-judaism-to-anti-semitism/arming-the-enemy-us-industry-hitler-and-the-holocaust-366097

                https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

                https://massivesci.com/articles/fossil-fuel-industry-oil-gas-white-supremacy/

                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                4. Six newspaper moguls promoted the Axis. So did radio.
                https://aspectsofhistory.com/book_reviews/the-newspaper-axis-by-kathryn-a-olmsted/

                https://thebostonsun.com/2022/11/17/the-nazis-of-copley-square-a-talk-by-charles-gallagher/

                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/opinion/larry-ellison-paramount-cbs-tiktok.html

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                #25

                3/

                5. Every international institution had embedded Nazi quislings & collaborators
                https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/introducing-tbrs-traitor-of-the-week

                https://variety.com/2025/film/global/goteborg-quisling-erik-poppe-toronto-anders-danielsen-lie-1236283530/

                https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-mcconnell-blocks-election-security-bill-hours-after-muellers/

                https://www.npr.org/2019/09/20/762499808/senate-breaks-logjam-on-election-security-cash-but-activists-say-more-is-needed

                https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century

                6. Switzerland, Sweden, & Bank of England laundered looted gold.

                https://www.bbc.com/news/business-23513654

                https://www.rferl.org/a/1083119.html

                https://www.economist.com/europe/1998/07/02/swiss-banks-and-nazi-gold

                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/sec-crypto-winklevoss.html

                https://gizmodo.com/the-winklevoss-twins-are-eyeing-2-22-billion-crypto-ipo-2000652038

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/24/repatriate-the-gold-german-economists-advise-withdrawal-from-us-vaults

                https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/03/trump-media-es-family-trust-2022-loans

                https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/23/pardon-binance-founder-cz-trump.html

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                • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                  Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                  We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                  #26

                  @kristiedegaris Mainly as tourist wife and me travelled a lot all over the UK, for 44 years now. There is a lot of Bad, but also Good. After Maggie, things did not improve for commoners. But we saw local social networks getting stronger. Through church, clubs, places-to-meet and talk and stay warm. Finally see that happening in The Netherlands too . There is lot of noise. That is not where it is happening.
                  It is just there where it is needed.
                  "To be the grain of sand building the dyke ".

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                  • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                    Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                    We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                    #27

                    @kristiedegaris Very well said, I agree totally, and you have a new follower.

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                    • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                      Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                      We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                      #28

                      It's not that nothing stood in its way. It took decades, and a lot had to be changed to get here.
                      There is a segment of the population that has always wanted this and is loving it now. We allowed our safeguards against these people to be taken down.

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                      • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                        Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                        We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                        #29

                        @kristiedegaris

                        It can't be #neveragain until humans keep sociopaths out of politics, out of any positions of power. That's why greed is overtaking humanity's real progress.

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                        • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                          Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                          We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                          #30

                          @kristiedegaris Never again requires education, and teaching, but was sounding to much as resistence against the new powers. We had needed to teach all people to be part of society and be an active member of governing our societies. But we were lazy and kept believing on strong leaders, and benovelent dictators. The USA was designed for a fascist takeover because convenience was to attractive.

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                          • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                            Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                            We have witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

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                            #31

                            @kristiedegaris
                            It's been rising for a hundred years, but they let the disguise drop.

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                            • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                              @kristiedegaris Why do you think French people have their own everything US ever proposed ?

                              Their general de Gaule, that became president later NEVER forgot the United State did not follow their promise to help them when hitler attacked (some plane where promised from memory).

                              Even if US go out of this ... the world will never forget that the US put a knife in their "allie" back

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                              #32

                              @lexinova
                              Had Japan not attacked the USA, I wonder if the USA might have entered the war a year later, but on the other side.
                              @kristiedegaris

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