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  3. Re-upping this thread, because the stuff in post 4 is exactly, •exactly• what I have seen from my communities here in Minneapolis these last few weeks.

Re-upping this thread, because the stuff in post 4 is exactly, •exactly• what I have seen from my communities here in Minneapolis these last few weeks.

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  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

    @inthehands

    i've been quite impressed with what folks in MSP folks have done to protect their community and neighbors. other occupied cities should be taking note.

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    #6

    @paul_ipv6

    We got a lot of our notes from Chicago, and also Portland and LA. We’re al in it together!

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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      Re-upping this thread, because the stuff in post 4 is exactly, •exactly• what I have seen from my communities here in Minneapolis these last few weeks. https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115403766112156810

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      #7

      @inthehands Maybe edit this to a real quote toot so folks can see & interact with your old thread you're citing? You can do this by, after opening edit, navigating to the old toot and clicking boost->quote to add it to the in-progress edit.

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        I’ve seen a lot of posts from afar to the effect of “Why aren’t people in Minneapolis / the US doing anything?? When will they take action???”

        …and, well, running with the metaphor from that thread, I guess maybe they’re looking at the top of the bread and wondering why it’s not golden brown already.

        I want you to know, I want the world to know: never in my life, not even after the murder of George Floyd, have I seen the amount of sustained daily action I’ve seen here these last few weeks.

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        #8

        @inthehands

        ...And you're IN Minneapolis. Damn! 😯

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        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

          @paul_ipv6

          We got a lot of our notes from Chicago, and also Portland and LA. We’re al in it together!

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          #9

          @inthehands

          things are really screwed but there are lots of cracks in the walls.

          the berlin wall fell very quickly once it started. fascists underestimate the power of the people.

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

            @inthehands Better question is why folks don't know that it's happening.

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            #10

            @dalias @inthehands

            THAT. Yes.

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            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

              I’ve seen a lot of posts from afar to the effect of “Why aren’t people in Minneapolis / the US doing anything?? When will they take action???”

              …and, well, running with the metaphor from that thread, I guess maybe they’re looking at the top of the bread and wondering why it’s not golden brown already.

              I want you to know, I want the world to know: never in my life, not even after the murder of George Floyd, have I seen the amount of sustained daily action I’ve seen here these last few weeks.

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              #11

              @inthehands

              If only the media were reporting the actual news....

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              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                @paul_ipv6

                We got a lot of our notes from Chicago, and also Portland and LA. We’re al in it together!

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                #12

                @inthehands @paul_ipv6 Does everyone forget DC because we’re not a state?

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                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                  @inthehands Maybe edit this to a real quote toot so folks can see & interact with your old thread you're citing? You can do this by, after opening edit, navigating to the old toot and clicking boost->quote to add it to the in-progress edit.

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                  #13

                  @dalias AFAIK my Masto clients just don’t support this yet

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    I’ve seen a lot of posts from afar to the effect of “Why aren’t people in Minneapolis / the US doing anything?? When will they take action???”

                    …and, well, running with the metaphor from that thread, I guess maybe they’re looking at the top of the bread and wondering why it’s not golden brown already.

                    I want you to know, I want the world to know: never in my life, not even after the murder of George Floyd, have I seen the amount of sustained daily action I’ve seen here these last few weeks.

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                    #14

                    So yeah, as @dalias is perhaps implying, part of the reason you don’t see it is that the mainstream press is under-covering everything that’s happening in Minneapolis.

                    BUT! There’s a second reason you might not know about this activity, equally important: the activity that followed the murder of George Floyd — rallies, protests, marches, police riots — was of a highly visible sort. What I see now is much more community infrastructure work: neighborhood organizing, watching for ICE, delivering food. That happened in 2020 too, but the scale of it now…!

                    https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/115857252713224712

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                    • gregatron5@vmst.ioG gregatron5@vmst.io

                      @inthehands @paul_ipv6 Does everyone forget DC because we’re not a state?

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                      #15

                      @gregatron5 @paul_ipv6
                      I only omit DC because I haven’t personally heard of people getting tips from organizers there. But I’m sure some here have! We love DC too!

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                      • lor@unredacted.socialL lor@unredacted.social

                        @inthehands

                        If only the media were reporting the actual news....

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                        #16

                        @lor @inthehands If only people were fighting back.

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                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                          I’ve seen a lot of posts from afar to the effect of “Why aren’t people in Minneapolis / the US doing anything?? When will they take action???”

                          …and, well, running with the metaphor from that thread, I guess maybe they’re looking at the top of the bread and wondering why it’s not golden brown already.

                          I want you to know, I want the world to know: never in my life, not even after the murder of George Floyd, have I seen the amount of sustained daily action I’ve seen here these last few weeks.

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                          #17

                          @inthehands I think people outside the US largely don’t understand the sheer size of US cities, and the widely spread population within, which makes it hard to have the kind of spontaneous mass demonstrations that could coalesce in cities like Europe’s. A million or two people trying to converge for a rally/protest in downtown Minneapolis would turn the metro’s road infrastructure into one enormous parking lot, and most wouldn’t arrive.

                          Instead, people take action locally.

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                          • mwyman@mastodon.socialM mwyman@mastodon.social

                            @inthehands I think people outside the US largely don’t understand the sheer size of US cities, and the widely spread population within, which makes it hard to have the kind of spontaneous mass demonstrations that could coalesce in cities like Europe’s. A million or two people trying to converge for a rally/protest in downtown Minneapolis would turn the metro’s road infrastructure into one enormous parking lot, and most wouldn’t arrive.

                            Instead, people take action locally.

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                            #18

                            @mwyman Plus, per the later follow-up post, people here are mostly not responding to ICE with rallies and protests (though there were MANY today). They’re responding with counter-action. Community- and neighborhood-based, as you say.

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                            • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                              @lor @inthehands If only people were fighting back.

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                              #19

                              @PattyHanson @lor
                              They are.

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                @mwyman Plus, per the later follow-up post, people here are mostly not responding to ICE with rallies and protests (though there were MANY today). They’re responding with counter-action. Community- and neighborhood-based, as you say.

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                                #20

                                @inthehands exactly. I think we’ve seen the Trump regime demonstrate they don’t care about their opponents rallying and protesting. But spontaneous action, even just blowing whistles, seems to scare the shit out of them.

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                                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                  @PattyHanson @lor
                                  They are.

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                                  #21

                                  @inthehands im assuming some of the negative comments are inauthentic, or from the dangerously stupid, but the only reason this incident happened at all is because the volunteer resistance effort, the only reason there are multiple videos are from other volunteers, this whole incident is a sign of serious resistance, not just showy protests that the authorities ignore

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                                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                    @inthehands Better question is why folks don't know that it's happening.

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                                    #22

                                    @dalias @inthehands the organizing is happening on a local level, it’s not happening online

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                                    • mwyman@mastodon.socialM mwyman@mastodon.social

                                      @inthehands exactly. I think we’ve seen the Trump regime demonstrate they don’t care about their opponents rallying and protesting. But spontaneous action, even just blowing whistles, seems to scare the shit out of them.

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                                      #23

                                      @inthehands the Trump folks set about hiring the worst gun-nut folks who for ages fantasized about raising arms against their fellow citizens, and mostly hired them for that reason; but those folks are also really quite chickenshit, yet just imaginative enough to consider their chances if the crowds willing and determined enough to stand against them despite the explicit threats, armed with nothing but whistles, decided instead to show up for war.

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                                      • mwyman@mastodon.socialM mwyman@mastodon.social

                                        @inthehands the Trump folks set about hiring the worst gun-nut folks who for ages fantasized about raising arms against their fellow citizens, and mostly hired them for that reason; but those folks are also really quite chickenshit, yet just imaginative enough to consider their chances if the crowds willing and determined enough to stand against them despite the explicit threats, armed with nothing but whistles, decided instead to show up for war.

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                                        #24

                                        @mwyman
                                        The problem with that is that it would open the doors to martial law, which is what Trump’s desperately been trying to foment.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          @mwyman
                                          The problem with that is that it would open the doors to martial law, which is what Trump’s desperately been trying to foment.

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                                          #25

                                          @inthehands oh, I’m not advocating it; I’m just pointing out why the chickenshit ICE folks start wigging out when the crowd arrives— they’re personally cowards, suddenly confronted by real personal courage, and while they’re excited to bust heads, they’re imaginative enough to know they stand little chance personally if that kind of amassed courage were to suddenly raise arms against them.

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