The wandering rant that might be charitably called an article that is "The left is missing out on AI" just crossed my path and oh buddy am I annoyed about it
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The wandering rant that might be charitably called an article that is "The left is missing out on AI" just crossed my path and oh buddy am I annoyed about it
@SnoopJ wait is this a fresh characterization of a thing I'm already mad about, or is it some _new_ disaster
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@SnoopJ wait is this a fresh characterization of a thing I'm already mad about, or is it some _new_ disaster
@glyph I would describe it as a hit piece in which the author airs out grievances that leftists don't think that "AI" is the top of the list right because of how patently obvious it is to the author that infinite growth is just around the corner, or as the conservative intellectual magazine he quotes from (there being no serious intellectual magazines on the left, you see) put it: "After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time."
And jeez, what the heck is it with those kookie lefties anyway, shouldn't they be seriously discussing and strategizing the end-game for when the Infinite Growth Machine swallows all of society?!
It made me grumpy to read and I suspect it would make you grumpy too.
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@glyph I would describe it as a hit piece in which the author airs out grievances that leftists don't think that "AI" is the top of the list right because of how patently obvious it is to the author that infinite growth is just around the corner, or as the conservative intellectual magazine he quotes from (there being no serious intellectual magazines on the left, you see) put it: "After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time."
And jeez, what the heck is it with those kookie lefties anyway, shouldn't they be seriously discussing and strategizing the end-game for when the Infinite Growth Machine swallows all of society?!
It made me grumpy to read and I suspect it would make you grumpy too.
@SnoopJ oh good, reactionary centrism has made its way to the LLM debate. silver lining: maybe an IBCK episode is in the making
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@glyph I would describe it as a hit piece in which the author airs out grievances that leftists don't think that "AI" is the top of the list right because of how patently obvious it is to the author that infinite growth is just around the corner, or as the conservative intellectual magazine he quotes from (there being no serious intellectual magazines on the left, you see) put it: "After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time."
And jeez, what the heck is it with those kookie lefties anyway, shouldn't they be seriously discussing and strategizing the end-game for when the Infinite Growth Machine swallows all of society?!
It made me grumpy to read and I suspect it would make you grumpy too.
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@glyph I would describe it as a hit piece in which the author airs out grievances that leftists don't think that "AI" is the top of the list right because of how patently obvious it is to the author that infinite growth is just around the corner, or as the conservative intellectual magazine he quotes from (there being no serious intellectual magazines on the left, you see) put it: "After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time."
And jeez, what the heck is it with those kookie lefties anyway, shouldn't they be seriously discussing and strategizing the end-game for when the Infinite Growth Machine swallows all of society?!
It made me grumpy to read and I suspect it would make you grumpy too.
@glyph selected quotes:
«The Biden administration took AI seriously in its last years.»
«More concretely, not taking AI seriously might blind the left to its political uses.»
«One key sign: conservative intellectual magazines are in better shape than their left counterparts, generally blending **a reasonably accurate grasp of the technology** with concerns about social costs, along with — and this is something missing from nearly any portion of the left — some hope for what AI might mean for humanity. Take this, from Commentary: “As we learn to live with AI, I believe we’ll become more comfortable with the notion that these models ‘think.’ **After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time.”**» (emphasis mine)
bonus points for taking a quote from an openai head and running with it as the fundamental premise of the article without bothering to like, argue that it's true
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@glyph selected quotes:
«The Biden administration took AI seriously in its last years.»
«More concretely, not taking AI seriously might blind the left to its political uses.»
«One key sign: conservative intellectual magazines are in better shape than their left counterparts, generally blending **a reasonably accurate grasp of the technology** with concerns about social costs, along with — and this is something missing from nearly any portion of the left — some hope for what AI might mean for humanity. Take this, from Commentary: “As we learn to live with AI, I believe we’ll become more comfortable with the notion that these models ‘think.’ **After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time.”**» (emphasis mine)
bonus points for taking a quote from an openai head and running with it as the fundamental premise of the article without bothering to like, argue that it's true
@SnoopJ@hachyderm.io @glyph@mastodon.social ahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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@glyph I would describe it as a hit piece in which the author airs out grievances that leftists don't think that "AI" is the top of the list right because of how patently obvious it is to the author that infinite growth is just around the corner, or as the conservative intellectual magazine he quotes from (there being no serious intellectual magazines on the left, you see) put it: "After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time."
And jeez, what the heck is it with those kookie lefties anyway, shouldn't they be seriously discussing and strategizing the end-game for when the Infinite Growth Machine swallows all of society?!
It made me grumpy to read and I suspect it would make you grumpy too.
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@rusty__shackleford @glyph thank you for reminding me about this article. I admire his writing and should definitely not let this one pass me up, it'd be a good antidote to my annoyance I bet
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@glyph selected quotes:
«The Biden administration took AI seriously in its last years.»
«More concretely, not taking AI seriously might blind the left to its political uses.»
«One key sign: conservative intellectual magazines are in better shape than their left counterparts, generally blending **a reasonably accurate grasp of the technology** with concerns about social costs, along with — and this is something missing from nearly any portion of the left — some hope for what AI might mean for humanity. Take this, from Commentary: “As we learn to live with AI, I believe we’ll become more comfortable with the notion that these models ‘think.’ **After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time.”**» (emphasis mine)
bonus points for taking a quote from an openai head and running with it as the fundamental premise of the article without bothering to like, argue that it's true
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@JessieImproved @glyph perhaps the true politics of "AI" is turning into a corncob yelling "it's still the future, we can still find a way to break even with it!"
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@glyph selected quotes:
«The Biden administration took AI seriously in its last years.»
«More concretely, not taking AI seriously might blind the left to its political uses.»
«One key sign: conservative intellectual magazines are in better shape than their left counterparts, generally blending **a reasonably accurate grasp of the technology** with concerns about social costs, along with — and this is something missing from nearly any portion of the left — some hope for what AI might mean for humanity. Take this, from Commentary: “As we learn to live with AI, I believe we’ll become more comfortable with the notion that these models ‘think.’ **After all, the LLMs are getting better all the time.”**» (emphasis mine)
bonus points for taking a quote from an openai head and running with it as the fundamental premise of the article without bothering to like, argue that it's true
@SnoopJ wow, both logic and prose worthy of good ol’ tommy chats himself
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@rusty__shackleford @glyph thank you for reminding me about this article. I admire his writing and should definitely not let this one pass me up, it'd be a good antidote to my annoyance I bet
@SnoopJ @glyph
It was a good read, I boosted both, together they're a great example of the question of what it means to be a 'good person' in our broken system of today, that's why the Smashing Frames title was striking to me, they call it right out.Side note: Just discovered Smashing Frames today, (drama aside) I've found a few regular writers with some amazing work since joining the fedi, it's been interesting, refreshing, exciting, & unfortunately occasionally disappointing.
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The wandering rant that might be charitably called an article that is "The left is missing out on AI" just crossed my path and oh buddy am I annoyed about it
@SnoopJ thanks for the pointer! I looked for it and honestly it doesn't seem so bad, maybe my standards are low?
https://www.transformernews.ai/p/the-left-is-missing-out-on-ai-sanders-doctorow-bender-bores
The main position, which is that the left is broadly missing out on AI by being mostly skeptical and not engaging with the technology seriously, seems broadly true to me.
It has plenty of sourced quotes, reflects some interesting positions. Unclear what people's peeves are, will review this thread to learn more
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