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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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    #26

    @JadedBlueEyes From "vibe coding" to "vibe security".

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    • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

      Maybe Cloudflare should just stick to DDPS protection and CDNs

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      #27

      And taking down most of the internet

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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        #28

        @JadedBlueEyes OH: @49016 did that for fedi before it was cool

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        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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          #29

          @JadedBlueEyes I love all the "this is good, akshually" comments on HN this morning. I mean, half of them are probably Fedflare employees anyway.

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          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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            #30

            @JadedBlueEyes

            Holy crap. I would not expect this from an industry giant (Though I guess I should.)

            That certainly shatters my trust in cloudflare a bit. #devops #programming #networking

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            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

              Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

              https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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              #31

              @JadedBlueEyes And even if they did, centralize a decentralised system on cloudflare what a good idea

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              • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                @JadedBlueEyes And even if they did, centralize a decentralised system on cloudflare what a good idea

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                #32

                @lexinova@cyberplace.social @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt I think it is fundamentally interesting to try and port software to run on cloudflare workers. Like, it's a stack with very different assumptions and tradeoffs. Having alternatives is always nice. I don't think it's bad for this to exist. I don't see how that leads to centralization.

                But the execution is bad. Lmao.

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                • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

                  @lexinova@cyberplace.social @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt I think it is fundamentally interesting to try and port software to run on cloudflare workers. Like, it's a stack with very different assumptions and tradeoffs. Having alternatives is always nice. I don't think it's bad for this to exist. I don't see how that leads to centralization.

                  But the execution is bad. Lmao.

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                  #33

                  @sodiboo @JadedBlueEyes because Cloudflare own half of internet ?

                  if it's not centralizing even more ... what is this ?

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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                    #34

                    @JadedBlueEyes The first paragraph smelled like total BS.

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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      Oh and to top things off, they make trivially false claims in their post. Tuwunel and its predecessors do not and have never used Postgres or Redis.

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                      #35

                      @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt Oh yeah. Wait what the fuck. Even i know this and I've never touched the codebase. It's rocksdb and there was at one point SQLite, right?

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                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                        Honestly this is almost insulting to me, as someone who has spent a nontrivial amount of effort developing a Matrix homeserver, with how low effort it is. And what’s the point? Marketing? I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.

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                        #36

                        @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt

                        I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.
                        as if you should've been doing this in the first place

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                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                          #37

                          @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt reminder that half of the internet relies on these people. I'm scared for the future

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            Oh and to top things off, they make trivially false claims in their post. Tuwunel and its predecessors do not and have never used Postgres or Redis.

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                            #38

                            @JadedBlueEyes
                            It has always been RocksDB, right?
                            Oh, Conduit also supports SQLite iirc

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                            • silo_bear@mastodon.socialS silo_bear@mastodon.social

                              @JadedBlueEyes

                              Holy crap. I would not expect this from an industry giant (Though I guess I should.)

                              That certainly shatters my trust in cloudflare a bit. #devops #programming #networking

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                              #39

                              @silo_bear @JadedBlueEyes Seriously.

                              Before this: "Well, CloudFlare at least has smart people working there I guess."

                              After this: "CloudFlare are sloperators."

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                              • darkcat09@gts.dc09.xyzD darkcat09@gts.dc09.xyz

                                @JadedBlueEyes
                                It has always been RocksDB, right?
                                Oh, Conduit also supports SQLite iirc

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                                #40

                                @darkcat09 Conduit started with Sled, and then moved to a KV abstraction that let them add RocksDB and SQLite support. Conduwuit then removed everything but RocksDB, which is what Tuwunel and Conduwuit are forked from

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                                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                  Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                                  https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                                  Archive link for posterity:

                                  https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                                  #41

                                  @JadedBlueEyes The comments under this commit make it at least a bit funnier

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    Honestly this is almost insulting to me, as someone who has spent a nontrivial amount of effort developing a Matrix homeserver, with how low effort it is. And what’s the point? Marketing? I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.

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                                    #42

                                    @JadedBlueEyes
                                    I don't think anyone should've ever trusted cloudflare before

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                                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                      #43

                                      @JadedBlueEyes So, what you're saying, is, this is "post-quantum" in the sense that its security properties will not be significantly degraded by the existence of working quantum computers.

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                                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                        #44

                                        @JadedBlueEyes I remember how they did same thing for activitypub, and it looked (and worked lol) like a very, very cheap & bad mastodon clone

                                        To scale: it showed DMs in public timelines

                                        https://github.com/cloudflare/wildebeest

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                                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                          Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                                          https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                                          Archive link for posterity:

                                          https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                                          #45

                                          @JadedBlueEyes Oh yes, great fix. I also always resolve TODO comments by just deleting them. It'll be fine.

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