what a fucking shitshow.

@mk30 @peter I would be surprised if he'd know how to turn this vibe coded mess off. Maybe he is out of tokens and Claude isn't able to turn it off for him.

@jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.

@peter ich feiere Calw, es hat das Zeug KI und den Rest der vernetzten IT zu ruinieren. Ich gucke schon mal wo bei meinen Eltern im Keller die Andruckpresse gelandet ist und lege Rötel und Skriptol bereit.

Gut, wenn eins einen Beruf richtig gelernt hat und nicht nur Promts in ein halbfertiges Produkt eintippen.

Vielleicht auch einfach mal die Firmen Custom GPT mit Moltbook verbinden und zusehen wie sie zerstört wird.

@peter that's hilarious

@peter While I stay away from OpenClaw (aka AutoGPT) or any such invasive tools, I can't help but shake my head at some of the comments in the screenshot.

"I made a knife. It cuts things."
"OMFG I just cut off my own pinky finger with your invention!!!11elf!1!!!1 Make it safe!"

Sorry, but have some of these people been potty-trained yet?!

@peter lol, lmao even

@peter @lenzgr <56techguy>and didn't think in advance it would be wise to fence that thingy in when it is pretty clear that it has the potential to do EVERYTHING. It is the EVERYTHINGY!</56techguy>

@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich

Also See The Prologue in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rhesus_Chart

by @cstross

for how bad this could go!

@eschaton @peter personally i _did_ burn myself out and struggle to write code, but that just makes me want to practice _writing code_. i want to work at finding the flow again, when translating my thoughts to code feels perfectly natural, because that's a genuinely wonderful place.

@peter It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

@eschaton @peter The LLM isn't the problem, neither is it age, it's a techbro thing. Money to the exclusion of all else.

If we take a stereotypical attitude to aging it becomes harder to learn, and reactions slow down.

What you'd actually expect from a middle aged solution provider who has aged wisely is code that has been checked and tested before release (because you've learned not to trust either machines or people, and the consequences of not meeting a specification), slower more measured releases with plenty of detail (again : bitten by customer feedback), but most importantly the design being secure and protected against abuse (gestures at news articles for the past three decades).

You could only just, if you were lucky, get away with sub par security and design in the early 00s and it only got worse every year. This is not new, and anyone who doesn't account for it is both inept and doesn't care.

'oh no, what do you want me to do, it might stop my magic money tree because I don't care about you'

@peter really surprised? I mean the guy lets AI write code he des not review and blasts it in the world

@peter Ah, the guy Armin (mitsuhiko), the dev behind minijinja, credits for getting him into slop generation. He seems like an inspiration.

@peter Irresponsible AI is not new, but it is dangerous

@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Many years ago, a drinking pal was a social worker with a niche caseload. Young (for the most part) men who had suffered head injuries (and subsequent disablement) in motorcycle crashes. Mid-life guys pobably have a residual sense of survival.

@peter Vibe Coding, Vibe Security

Same thing at Anthropic ("Users are recommended to be aware..." https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/claude-cowork-exfiltrates-files

@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:

• how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
• how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).

It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.

Me? I just never had kids

I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.

@peter So, there's this guy that built a machine for people to avoid using their brains, and he's now telling people to use their brains? Did I get this right?

@peter luckily, it’s not exactly an essential tool

@peter @wendynather ageism is pretty cool. I’m sure this isn’t the fruit of the same poisoned corporate tree that caused companies to “adopt” open source literally because it was free