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  • morgan@leds.socialM morgan@leds.social

    @ArchiteuthisFlux It's like... maybe lighthouses are warning them of something.... it's actually an amazing summation of the current state of AI thinking

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    #7

    @ArchiteuthisFlux

    * Act again based on that feedback
    * Smash into the fucking rocks

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    • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

      omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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      #8

      @ArchiteuthisFlux I was in a company with a morale problem, and the HR team's response was to cover the walls with posters telling us "Be a lighthouse!" and stop complaining all the time.

      I read a letter to the editor once where the writer was complaining about the "deer crossing" signs on the highway, and wanted them moved away from where she lived because there were too many deer on the road.

      In tech school, these would have been marked "GCE" - gross conceptual errors.

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      • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

        omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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        #9

        @ArchiteuthisFlux sadly tracks….

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        • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

          omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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          #10

          @ArchiteuthisFlux
          "Canadian coastguard, this is the US Navy, we are on a collision course. Adjust your bearing 10 degrees south."

          "Nope."

          "We say again, collision course, change your bearing."

          "Nope."

          "Canadian coastguard, we are an aircraft carrier with a support fleet of two destroyers, three cruisers, a small flotilla of support craft and a classified number of submarines. If you do not change your bearing we will take appropriate action."

          "We're a lighthouse. Your call."

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          • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

            omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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            #11

            @ArchiteuthisFlux oh bröther, I know exactly what a lighthouse is

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            • rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR rotopenguin@mastodon.social

              @ArchiteuthisFlux oh bröther, I know exactly what a lighthouse is

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              #12

              @rotopenguin That is an excellent Big-fuzzy Moth GIF

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              • katls@ohai.socialK katls@ohai.social

                @ArchiteuthisFlux sadly tracks….

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                #13

                @KatLS I read that as "sadly tacks" and thought that was the most brilliant sailing-themed play on this

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                • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                  omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                  #14

                  @ArchiteuthisFlux responding to a lighthouse is not a bad metaphor for intelligence though, because it actually involves:

                  (a) observation—what is this lighthouse's pattern?
                  (b) measurement—what bearing is it...
                  (c) self-knowledge—...relative to my heading?
                  (d) external information—where is it on the chart?
                  (e) correlation—conclude where i am along a line
                  (f) prediction—where i will be after a period of time
                  (g) decision-making—is that where i want to be?
                  (h) action—course correct as needed.

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                  • vfig@mastodon.gamedev.placeV vfig@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @ArchiteuthisFlux responding to a lighthouse is not a bad metaphor for intelligence though, because it actually involves:

                    (a) observation—what is this lighthouse's pattern?
                    (b) measurement—what bearing is it...
                    (c) self-knowledge—...relative to my heading?
                    (d) external information—where is it on the chart?
                    (e) correlation—conclude where i am along a line
                    (f) prediction—where i will be after a period of time
                    (g) decision-making—is that where i want to be?
                    (h) action—course correct as needed.

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                    #15

                    @vfig Like entering the coordinates to a rake on your front lawn into the Apollo Guidance Computer then having it precisely guide you to step on it and hitting yourself in the face.

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                    • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ _thegeoff@mastodon.social

                      @ArchiteuthisFlux
                      "Canadian coastguard, this is the US Navy, we are on a collision course. Adjust your bearing 10 degrees south."

                      "Nope."

                      "We say again, collision course, change your bearing."

                      "Nope."

                      "Canadian coastguard, we are an aircraft carrier with a support fleet of two destroyers, three cruisers, a small flotilla of support craft and a classified number of submarines. If you do not change your bearing we will take appropriate action."

                      "We're a lighthouse. Your call."

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                      #16

                      @_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux
                      Several versions of this
                      https://youtu.be/x91iciAYcw0

                      Someone probably did an AI slop version by now

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                      • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                        omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                        #17
                        @ArchiteuthisFlux Didn't pretty much any video game against an AI have this property where you have a goal state and you attempt to reach that goal state considering variable user input?

                        You know, like wind? 🤣

                        Why do they think this is so profound lol

                        We are regressing.
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                        • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                          omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                          @ArchiteuthisFlux A PID controller can do this.
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                          • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                            omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                            #19

                            @ArchiteuthisFlux
                            They weren't serious, were they? This is just too stupid.

                            Also I've to steal this for LinkedIn, where the main audience of people that need to see this currently is.

                            https://www.linkedin.com/posts/klausfrank_ai-ai-activity-7418605218474602497-abxG

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                            • morgan@leds.socialM morgan@leds.social

                              @ArchiteuthisFlux It's like... maybe lighthouses are warning them of something.... it's actually an amazing summation of the current state of AI thinking

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                              #20

                              @morgan @ArchiteuthisFlux
                              We know that the AI systems serve the company that created them and so they will mindlessly direct their defenseless crew towards warnings
                              https://youtu.be/-6mvwOCYJjc

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                              • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                                omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                                #21

                                @ArchiteuthisFlux Yeah, but if their goal is to crash into the rocks, they are nailing it.

                                😄

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                                • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                                  It's probably just because my family's in the fishing industry that I know the secrets of the sea: for instance, boats go on the water and lighthouses go on land, and they should generally not be in the same place at the same time.

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                                  #22

                                  @ArchiteuthisFlux That's what I love about mastodon: these deep insights from domain experts that you can't get anywhere else.

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                                  • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                                    omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                                    #23

                                    @ArchiteuthisFlux there's that minor crashing into land issue, but also something that moves an output left/right (or up/down or hot/cold) to correct for an error is pretty much the definition of a closed-loop system.

                                    I mean if some VC wants to give me, say, a gazzilion dollars for an op-amp or PID controller I'm all for it.

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                                    • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                      @ArchiteuthisFlux I was in a company with a morale problem, and the HR team's response was to cover the walls with posters telling us "Be a lighthouse!" and stop complaining all the time.

                                      I read a letter to the editor once where the writer was complaining about the "deer crossing" signs on the highway, and wanted them moved away from where she lived because there were too many deer on the road.

                                      In tech school, these would have been marked "GCE" - gross conceptual errors.

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                                      #24

                                      @grumble209 @ArchiteuthisFlux
                                      I want to know now how they thought "be a lighthouse" helped.

                                      What was their angle? Something about shining or guiding or just working all night?

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                                      • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ _thegeoff@mastodon.social

                                        @ArchiteuthisFlux
                                        "Canadian coastguard, this is the US Navy, we are on a collision course. Adjust your bearing 10 degrees south."

                                        "Nope."

                                        "We say again, collision course, change your bearing."

                                        "Nope."

                                        "Canadian coastguard, we are an aircraft carrier with a support fleet of two destroyers, three cruisers, a small flotilla of support craft and a classified number of submarines. If you do not change your bearing we will take appropriate action."

                                        "We're a lighthouse. Your call."

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                                        #25

                                        @_thegeoff
                                        Hmm. The last time I heard that story it was a Spanish lighthouse. I guess it *is* a universal problem.
                                        @ArchiteuthisFlux

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                                        • architeuthisflux@leds.socialA architeuthisflux@leds.social

                                          omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.

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                                          #26

                                          @ArchiteuthisFlux reading ai-bros talk about “techniques” to improve and optimise modern AI stuff, feels like living in an alternate dimension where everybody received a targeted lobotomy to remove any learnings of the past 50y on machine learning, optimisation, and information theory… 😐

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