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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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    #37

    @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt reminder that half of the internet relies on these people. I'm scared for the future

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    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

      Oh and to top things off, they make trivially false claims in their post. Tuwunel and its predecessors do not and have never used Postgres or Redis.

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      #38

      @JadedBlueEyes
      It has always been RocksDB, right?
      Oh, Conduit also supports SQLite iirc

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      • silo_bear@mastodon.socialS silo_bear@mastodon.social

        @JadedBlueEyes

        Holy crap. I would not expect this from an industry giant (Though I guess I should.)

        That certainly shatters my trust in cloudflare a bit. #devops #programming #networking

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        #39

        @silo_bear @JadedBlueEyes Seriously.

        Before this: "Well, CloudFlare at least has smart people working there I guess."

        After this: "CloudFlare are sloperators."

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        • darkcat09@gts.dc09.xyzD darkcat09@gts.dc09.xyz

          @JadedBlueEyes
          It has always been RocksDB, right?
          Oh, Conduit also supports SQLite iirc

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          #40

          @darkcat09 Conduit started with Sled, and then moved to a KV abstraction that let them add RocksDB and SQLite support. Conduwuit then removed everything but RocksDB, which is what Tuwunel and Conduwuit are forked from

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          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

            Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

            https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

            Archive link for posterity:

            https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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            #41

            @JadedBlueEyes The comments under this commit make it at least a bit funnier

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            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

              Honestly this is almost insulting to me, as someone who has spent a nontrivial amount of effort developing a Matrix homeserver, with how low effort it is. And what’s the point? Marketing? I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.

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              #42

              @JadedBlueEyes
              I don't think anyone should've ever trusted cloudflare before

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              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                #43

                @JadedBlueEyes So, what you're saying, is, this is "post-quantum" in the sense that its security properties will not be significantly degraded by the existence of working quantum computers.

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                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                  Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                  https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                  #44

                  @JadedBlueEyes I remember how they did same thing for activitypub, and it looked (and worked lol) like a very, very cheap & bad mastodon clone

                  To scale: it showed DMs in public timelines

                  https://github.com/cloudflare/wildebeest

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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                    https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                    Archive link for posterity:

                    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                    #45

                    @JadedBlueEyes Oh yes, great fix. I also always resolve TODO comments by just deleting them. It'll be fine.

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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                      #46

                      @JadedBlueEyes This is almost a minor criticism in comparison to all the other crap, but I am so sick of companies calling things 'serverless' when what they really mean is "servers, but only ours and they're really opaquely billed and impossible to replace with someone else's servers so you're stuck with us, and also they're managed in a totally custom way so none of your normal sysadmin skills are portable to it but you still have to learn how to manage it"

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                      • outsidecontext@fosstodon.orgO outsidecontext@fosstodon.org

                        @JadedBlueEyes Oh yes, great fix. I also always resolve TODO comments by just deleting them. It'll be fine.

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                        #47

                        @outsidecontext Same. It’s the fastest way to resolve it, and that means it’s the best, right?

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                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                          #48

                          @JadedBlueEyes this is the best PR https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/pull/1/changes

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                            #49

                            @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt worst game of spot the difference i have ever played

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                            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                              Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                              https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                              Archive link for posterity:

                              https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                              #50

                              @JadedBlueEyes This takes it from "lazy and disappointing" to "actively malicious". One quick apology blogpost would fix this, but they're doubling down, aren't they?

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                              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                #51

                                @JadedBlueEyes oh, what a disappointment. I don't understand that much so I trusted their post 😳

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                                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                  Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                  https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                  #52

                                  @JadedBlueEyes @dcousineau Nothing like :checks notes: three THOUSAND lines BS in one file: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/blob/main/src/admin/dashboard.ts and it's not even good code.

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                                    https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                                    Archive link for posterity:

                                    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                                    #53

                                    @JadedBlueEyes I recently learned that GitHub allows one to view the activity on a repo, and you can limit it to show force pushes only, which in turn allows you to view the diff between the two states too, even if they span multiple commits.

                                    It's fun to see what kind of things some companies try to hide. (edit: like the original history, which has some fun commits in there!)

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                                    • josh@joshbutts.socialJ josh@joshbutts.social

                                      @JadedBlueEyes @dcousineau Nothing like :checks notes: three THOUSAND lines BS in one file: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/blob/main/src/admin/dashboard.ts and it's not even good code.

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                                      #54

                                      @josh @dcousineau oh god I didn't even look at the client code

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                                      • networkexception@bonk.expertN networkexception@bonk.expert

                                        @JadedBlueEyes OH: @49016 did that for fedi before it was cool

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                                        #55

                                        @networkexception @JadedBlueEyes LMAOOO they're really turning its shitposts into satirical reality

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                                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                          #56

                                          @JadedBlueEyes this is a great case study in how AI can be used to create something of actually inferior quality real fast and just trumpet the fact of its existence as a real improvement on the old ways.

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