Native Instruments GmbH is in preliminary insolvency.
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@FreakyFwoof @pitermach @jscholes In the meantime, don your best bullshit-proof vest, the opinion ratio on accessibility groups is inevitably gonna be set to stun.
@Scott @pitermach @jscholes Panic-buy toilet roll starting now.
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@Scott @pitermach @jscholes Panic-buy toilet roll starting now.
@FreakyFwoof I'm not wiping my bottom with controllers. Maybe I'm using them wrong? @pitermach @jscholes
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@FreakyFwoof I'm not wiping my bottom with controllers. Maybe I'm using them wrong? @pitermach @jscholes
@Scott @pitermach @jscholes They do have a soft underside.
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@FreakyFwoof I'm not wiping my bottom with controllers. Maybe I'm using them wrong? @pitermach @jscholes
@Scott In related news, you see my video on MK3 accessibility? Instead of NI's poxy 14 minutes, mine was 48. Covered a lot more in a lot more detail.
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@fabio @pkirn they were bought out by an American private equity firm about five years ago. There's a pretty established narrative among firms like that of buying companies, overburdening them with debt from the sale, and basically stripping them for parts and cashing out.
Not saying I know for a fact that's what happened here but one can make assumptions.
@antiquedigital @fabio Right, but if you're trying to do *that*, this is specifically what you *don't* want to happen -- because then you lose control of breaking up the company.
I'm the last person to be a fan of private equity, but this is actually worse -- and the role of private equity is typically to avoid this case. So this has a lot of people really shocked.
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@Scott In related news, you see my video on MK3 accessibility? Instead of NI's poxy 14 minutes, mine was 48. Covered a lot more in a lot more detail.
@FreakyFwoof Bookbarked it and sent it to some folks but I haven't watched yet. Slightly concerned it might tip me over the edge of spending money on a thing that I shouldn't spend money on right now.
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@pkirn I can’t believe it.
non-USA based music company with storied hardware and software integration, I would say this is a pretty shocking ‘canary in the coal mine’.It’s the category of company musicians and producers likely thought had tons of future/dependability. Thoughts for the workers. I hope they can open source anything that’s not bolted down so their tools can continue.
@bntn Unfortunately, all assets are out of your hands in the insolvency proceedings, so you would not be able to open-source anything, no.
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@FreakyFwoof Bookbarked it and sent it to some folks but I haven't watched yet. Slightly concerned it might tip me over the edge of spending money on a thing that I shouldn't spend money on right now.
@Scott I'd be more worried if they didn't just release Absynth, if their store wasn't still online etc. I'm not head in sanding about it or anything, but what's gonna happen is gonna happen, you know? Some people would love to see them go under but that's just churlish.
That would take down iZoTope too, same parent company, and it's just shit for the industry in general to be honest. -
@Scott I'd be more worried if they didn't just release Absynth, if their store wasn't still online etc. I'm not head in sanding about it or anything, but what's gonna happen is gonna happen, you know? Some people would love to see them go under but that's just churlish.
That would take down iZoTope too, same parent company, and it's just shit for the industry in general to be honest.@FreakyFwoof I can't see them going under man. The product catalogue is still wicked valuable and the brand is super well known, even if its rep isn't all shiny all of the time. At most I'd expect chopping of some comparatively dead wood.
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Native Instruments GmbH is in preliminary insolvency.
Not remotely what you want to see. Will keep tabs on this one in a tough time. Details:
@pkirn@mastodon.social I've not exactly been following this, but I have heard a few things here and there over the last few years, and this isn't coming as a surprise.
For me, since shifting to Linux and open source a few years ago now, I haven't done any music production, or tried to set anything up yet, since I need a new machine really. I had tried to do some research in finding a Kontakt alternative that could either load up Kontak Instruments, or remap them to a another format - as after 20 years, Kontakt was the only NI product I used in the end - but used very heavily. And I have a ton of unfinished tracks I would like to finish, even if just for myself.
So, if anyone reading this more familiar with Linux audio knows of such a way, please let me know. It has been previously recommended to me to try using Carla, and hacking Kontakt VST to work in Linux, but I was already reluctant to go that way. I would rather find a native sampler that can somehow use Kontakt instruments, and then import the midi regions from older tracks that I've made. Thanks. -
@antiquedigital @fabio Right, but if you're trying to do *that*, this is specifically what you *don't* want to happen -- because then you lose control of breaking up the company.
I'm the last person to be a fan of private equity, but this is actually worse -- and the role of private equity is typically to avoid this case. So this has a lot of people really shocked.
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@bntn Unfortunately, all assets are out of your hands in the insolvency proceedings, so you would not be able to open-source anything, no.
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@pkirn@mastodon.social I've not exactly been following this, but I have heard a few things here and there over the last few years, and this isn't coming as a surprise.
For me, since shifting to Linux and open source a few years ago now, I haven't done any music production, or tried to set anything up yet, since I need a new machine really. I had tried to do some research in finding a Kontakt alternative that could either load up Kontak Instruments, or remap them to a another format - as after 20 years, Kontakt was the only NI product I used in the end - but used very heavily. And I have a ton of unfinished tracks I would like to finish, even if just for myself.
So, if anyone reading this more familiar with Linux audio knows of such a way, please let me know. It has been previously recommended to me to try using Carla, and hacking Kontakt VST to work in Linux, but I was already reluctant to go that way. I would rather find a native sampler that can somehow use Kontakt instruments, and then import the midi regions from older tracks that I've made. Thanks.@shye @pkirn C @dingodoppelt maybe you have an idea about this?
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Native Instruments GmbH is in preliminary insolvency.
Not remotely what you want to see. Will keep tabs on this one in a tough time. Details:
I guess a few people having invested in Kontakt (as users or library producers) will now be unpleasantly reminded what *vendor lock-in* means.
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Native Instruments GmbH is in preliminary insolvency.
Not remotely what you want to see. Will keep tabs on this one in a tough time. Details:
@FreakyFwoof @pkirn And whatever happens I hope to all hell their incredible work to keep their products accessible to everyone including their BVI (Blind and Visually Impaired) users remains. I hate insolvancies like this because there's no guarantee that the folks who get broken up will land in good hands for those of us who use products on the daily.
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@FreakyFwoof @pkirn And whatever happens I hope to all hell their incredible work to keep their products accessible to everyone including their BVI (Blind and Visually Impaired) users remains. I hate insolvancies like this because there's no guarantee that the folks who get broken up will land in good hands for those of us who use products on the daily.
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@FreakyFwoof @pkirn Makes me want to scrape together the money and grap there A series 61 key...yesterday. *sighs* I want so bad. I wanted it before this, but now so bad.
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@FreakyFwoof @pkirn Makes me want to scrape together the money and grap there A series 61 key...yesterday. *sighs* I want so bad. I wanted it before this, but now so bad.
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@fabio @pkirn they were bought out by an American private equity firm about five years ago. There's a pretty established narrative among firms like that of buying companies, overburdening them with debt from the sale, and basically stripping them for parts and cashing out.
Not saying I know for a fact that's what happened here but one can make assumptions.
@antiquedigital @fabio @pkirn Damn on Saturday I was literally hanging out w/ an NI employee…Now looking back some of the things he said may have been his way of saying he knew about this but he def didn’t make it seem like there was much of a problem so maybe actually he didn’t know. He did express some issues with the company that bought them but said that NI’s folks in Germany were all really brilliant.
Maschine+ is my main instrument.
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