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  • J joeheadycus@mastodon.social

    @nixCraft how is AI simultaneously producing nothing of value and also taking jobs, in your mind? How can it steal (and therefore profit from) artists work while also being incapable of production? Workers and artists have absolutely nothing to worry about because AI doesn’t work, right?

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    #23

    @Joeheadycus @nixCraft how can it steal? They only exist because of theft. Doesn't mean it produces art. This is not difficult

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    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

      @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

      https://www.fastcompany.com/91497841/meta-superintelligence-lab-ai-safety-alignment-director-lost-control-of-agent-deleted-her-emails

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      #24

      @ai6yr @nixCraft

      Just shyte.

      "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire 😧 drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/google-antigravity-ai-delete-drive

      ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ozeng@aus.socialO 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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      • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

        @ai6yr @nixCraft

        Just shyte.

        "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire 😧 drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/google-antigravity-ai-delete-drive

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        #25

        @kevinrns @nixCraft LOL

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

          So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

          * Getting staff fired
          * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
          * Environment impact
          * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
          * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
          * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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          #26

          @nixCraft

          I'd even say they drove the US into more debt, and robbed millions of people of their livelihoods and even their savings.

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          • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

            @ai6yr @nixCraft

            Just shyte.

            "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire 😧 drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/google-antigravity-ai-delete-drive

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            #27

            @kevinrns @ai6yr @nixCraft@mastodon.social we are heading for another Carrington Event but this time it’s software

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

              So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

              * Getting staff fired
              * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
              * Environment impact
              * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
              * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
              * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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              #28

              @nixCraft getting staff fired is desirable from a shareholder's perspective

              unless of course the company has to hire the people back

              than again, rates might be lower, because, you know, AI-related unemployment, so still a win.

              This is of course sarcastic, because in the end, unemployed don't buy your product

              [edited a typo]

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

                So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                * Getting staff fired
                * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
                * Environment impact
                * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                #29

                @nixCraft And they consumed all of the RAM and storage media in a coordinated action to force us into cloud storage and compute.

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                • bzdev@fosstodon.orgB bzdev@fosstodon.org

                  @scotty86 @nixCraft As an example of machine learning being useful, see the following article, which mentions how machine learning has reduced the computational resources needed for some tasks.

                  https://science.psu.edu/news/machine-learning-takes-starring-role-in-exploring-universe

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                  #30

                  @bzdev Astronomy is an excellent example. 👍
                  There are several others - protein folding, climate modeling, particle physics, medical imaging....

                  I would welcome it if the media differentiated between "AI" and conventional chatbots. @nixCraft

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                  • causticmsngo@mastodon.socialC causticmsngo@mastodon.social

                    @nixCraft They do, in fact, see "getting staff fired" & “stealing ... work" as "plus points" & are worth the harms caused. They are not concerned about growing the economy so much as 'maximizing shareholder value' & the corresponding boost to their bonuses.

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                    #31

                    @causticmsngo @nixCraft Not even that.

                    It's a bubble. They're not concerned about maximising long term shareholder value, which in most cases is their actual fiduciary duty (e.g. pension funds own a large proportion of the economy in many countries).

                    They're only concerned about temporarily boosting share prices. Which is **not** the same thing.

                    Because when the bubble bursts, they'll time it right and short it on the way down. Or so they hope.

                    Or, as CEO, they'll have moved on to another job by then.

                    And they temporarily boost share prices by jumping on the latest bandwagon, propping up the bubble for a while longer before it pops.

                    Meanwhile, "AI" drives new fossil fueled power stations, steals water as well as intellectual property, along with all the other harms it does.

                    Plus, fire and rehire as a bonus.

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                    • matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.socialM matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.social

                      @causticmsngo @nixCraft Not even that.

                      It's a bubble. They're not concerned about maximising long term shareholder value, which in most cases is their actual fiduciary duty (e.g. pension funds own a large proportion of the economy in many countries).

                      They're only concerned about temporarily boosting share prices. Which is **not** the same thing.

                      Because when the bubble bursts, they'll time it right and short it on the way down. Or so they hope.

                      Or, as CEO, they'll have moved on to another job by then.

                      And they temporarily boost share prices by jumping on the latest bandwagon, propping up the bubble for a while longer before it pops.

                      Meanwhile, "AI" drives new fossil fueled power stations, steals water as well as intellectual property, along with all the other harms it does.

                      Plus, fire and rehire as a bonus.

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                      #32

                      @causticmsngo @nixCraft On the upside, if Goldman Sachs is right, the bubble bursting might not lead to recession and a risk of a full blown financial crisis.

                      Which would be nice.

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

                        So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                        * Getting staff fired
                        * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
                        * Environment impact
                        * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                        * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                        * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                        #33

                        @nixCraft #BoycottAI

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

                          So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                          * Getting staff fired
                          * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
                          * Environment impact
                          * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                          * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                          * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                          #34

                          @nixCraft

                          • Enabling massive amounts of authoritarian fascist surveillance with minimal oversight where misidentification is, somehow, a bonus feature because uncertainty, fear, and absolutely no human accountability are extremely desirable by the ruling oligarchs and their pet politicians.
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                          • wiletha@mastodonapp.ukW wiletha@mastodonapp.uk

                            @fnwbr @nixCraft Although other parts of the article quote analysts being cautiously positive about its impact on productivity in the most recent quarter and the general thrust seems to be that significant productivity gains may be more in the longer rather than shorter term. I’m not a lover of AI, but that is what the Fortune article is saying.

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                            #35

                            @wiletha @fnwbr @nixCraft

                            Those analysts are just hedging their bets and mostly just parroting the slop-machine companies' PR.

                            The supposed productivity and economic benefits are always "next year", "in two years" or "in three years" but they've been saying the same thing every year for four or five years now, and it never gets any closer, and never will, because LLM flaws are inherent - more data and compute fixes nothing.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

                              So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                              * Getting staff fired
                              * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
                              * Environment impact
                              * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                              * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                              * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                              #36

                              @nixCraft

                              Well. “Psychopaths are usually most present at higher levels of corporate structure, and their actions often cause a ripple effect throughout an organization”.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace

                              😬

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                              • tobi82@swiss.socialT tobi82@swiss.social

                                @nixCraft

                                Well. “Psychopaths are usually most present at higher levels of corporate structure, and their actions often cause a ripple effect throughout an organization”.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace

                                😬

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                                #37

                                @tobi82 @nixCraft and don't forget that chefs are the ones wielding knives.

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                                • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                  @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

                                  https://www.fastcompany.com/91497841/meta-superintelligence-lab-ai-safety-alignment-director-lost-control-of-agent-deleted-her-emails

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                                  #38

                                  @ai6yr @kevinrns @nixCraft this is starting to look like Skynet, but not an evil Skynet, just a dumb one, launching nuclear missiles into every country while saying 'Sorry, my bad, I thought this would be fun :)'

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    AI Added ‘Basically Zero’ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 😂😂😂

                                    So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                                    * Getting staff fired
                                    * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artists’ work
                                    * Environment impact
                                    * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                                    * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                                    * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                                    #39

                                    @nixCraft

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                                    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                      @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

                                      https://www.fastcompany.com/91497841/meta-superintelligence-lab-ai-safety-alignment-director-lost-control-of-agent-deleted-her-emails

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                                      #40

                                      @ai6yr @kevinrns @nixCraft

                                      As George Carlin would have said, "Results like this do not belong in the resume of a Supreme Inteligence, this is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude."

                                      https://youtu.be/_BFIRgn9OLI?t=165

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                                      • pedroleitao@masto.ptP pedroleitao@masto.pt

                                        @ai6yr @kevinrns @nixCraft this is starting to look like Skynet, but not an evil Skynet, just a dumb one, launching nuclear missiles into every country while saying 'Sorry, my bad, I thought this would be fun :)'

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                                        #41

                                        @pedroleitao @ai6yr @nixCraft

                                        Ane so more dangerous, Stupid Skynet in Beerbreath's hands.

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