We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates.

@GrapheneOS Try contacting some big enough #EU hosting provider (#infomaniak, #ovh, #hetzner)

We can afford to pay for it but hosting companies providing sponsorships saves significant money we can use to pay more developers to improve privacy, security, usability and compatibility for GrapheneOS. We document server sponsors on our servers page: https://grapheneos.org/articles/grapheneos-servers#releases.grapheneos.org.

@occirol @GrapheneOS

I was also going to suggest @hetzner

They are fairly big and Germany is becoming the European center for privacy (or the least worst) after the nonsense Switzerland and France 🤨

It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

@occirol @GrapheneOS

I was also going to suggest @hetzner

They are fairly big and Germany is becoming the European center for privacy (or the least worst) after the nonsense Switzerland and France 🤨

@simonzerafa @occirol @hetzner Hetzner's pricing for 10GB is $1/TB with barely any bandwidth included which isn't comparable to their usual extremely low pricing. It's competitive but it starts being nearly as much as paying for 10Gbps unmetered which we can get for around $500 from other providers. We currently use around 300TB in a typical month for Europe so with 1 server that would be $300 which is reasonable but not great. We can afford it if we have to do it.

https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-uplink/

It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

We can afford to pay for a couple 10Gbps servers in Europe if needed but it would be better if we could get them sponsored. For Europe, we use an average of 1Gbps to 2Gbps over the course of a month but it's very bursty so we need 10Gbps to 20Gbps total capacity for it in Europe.

@GrapheneOS i believe debian does update polling time a little randomized to reduce burst usage. could grapheneos do similar to have a more distributed network usage?

@GrapheneOS do you need actual servers (with compute) or just a place to distribute traffic (so a CDN)? If the latter, @fastlydevs is usually happy to sponsor FOSS projects and has good connectivity across the globe.

@zhenech @fastlydevs We need actual servers since we host things ourselves where we can control how it's done and properly monitor it. We don't want to have any single points of failure. We host more than updates on these servers but updates are what uses the vast majority of the bandwidth and storage. Network time, connectivity checks, etc. don't consume much. Self-hosting geocoding instead of only a proxy will need a massive amount of memory and storage but it won't fit on the same servers.

@zhenech @fastlydevs We host 2 of our own anycast DNS networks and have servers around the world for our website/network services. We already essentially host a CDN ourselves. OS updates require a ton of bandwidth and a fair bit of storage so that's harder for us to afford with similarly low prices. We also host our own mail server, discussion forum, Matrix chat, Mastodon (this server), etc. We don't plan to move away from self-hosting but rather want to keep heading down the self-hosting path.

@GrapheneOS Maybe try Scaleway? Datacentres in Paris, Amsterdam and Warsaw. French datacentres are 100% renewable energy powered: https://www.scaleway.com

@greg_harvey Edited:

It seems they're based in France which we're currently trying to avoid due to major hostility from French national law enforcement and their government towards end-to-end encryption and secure devices. French law enforcement specifically targeted GrapheneOS with fearmongering and spread it in a bunch of the French media. They're trying to make it seem as if GrapheneOS is for criminals and are trying to justify taking action against us so we don't want to bne involved there.

It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates. We have North America covered well enough via sponsored servers from ReliableSite in both Miami and Los Angeles and a sponsored server from Xenyth in Toronto but no longer have any left in Europe.

@greg_harvey Edited:

It seems they're based in France which we're currently trying to avoid due to major hostility from French national law enforcement and their government towards end-to-end encryption and secure devices. French law enforcement specifically targeted GrapheneOS with fearmongering and spread it in a bunch of the French media. They're trying to make it seem as if GrapheneOS is for criminals and are trying to justify taking action against us so we don't want to bne involved there.

We can afford to pay for it but hosting companies providing sponsorships saves significant money we can use to pay more developers to improve privacy, security, usability and compatibility for GrapheneOS. We document server sponsors on our servers page: https://grapheneos.org/articles/grapheneos-servers#releases.grapheneos.org.