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★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoehttps://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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  • glass@typo.socialG glass@typo.social

    @daringfireball I got unnecessarily excited when I saw the bit about downgrading from macOS 26 until I realized that's not possible for iOS 26. I will regret that update incessantly.

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    #7

    @glass @daringfireball You had no choice. Users on recent devices are not getting the latest security updates unless they go to iOS 26. I was forced to update to it.

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    • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

      ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
      https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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      #8

      @daringfireball I am not sure I understand this complaint. I get a two-ended arrow when I hover over the target area to resize—diagonal on the corner, horizontal on the sides and vertical on the bottom and top. Maybe a bit less clear than an always present indicator, but it works fine for me.

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      • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

        ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
        https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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        #9

        @daringfireball yes. And, it’s buggy and inconsistent. Another feature of Tahoe is layering bugs (click event delivered to wrong window that is not the top one, and timing bugs (events processed in clearly the wrong order). Whether the resize cursor even shows up is a crapshoot.

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        • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

          ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
          https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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          #10

          @daringfireball It’s extraordinary to me that Tim and Craig are getting off with no blame in this. They should have mitigated this disaster before it shipped. Dye didn’t operate in a vacuum, and there was clearly a lot of internal pushback being ignored by upper management.

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          • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

            ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
            https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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            #11

            @daringfireball @gruber - regarding your advice at the end of the article: "Do not upgrade to MacOS 26 Tahoe. If you have already upgraded, downgrade."

            How does that play out into the future? Hope Apple fixes all of the design issues at some point this year? An expectation that MacOS 27 is better, and users should just skip Tahoe? Obviously, people can't just stay on Sequoia *forever*

            Genuinely asking and curious what your longterm plan is.

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            • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

              ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
              https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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              #12

              @daringfireball @gruber I’d even accept outside-the-window, visionOS-style handles in macOS as a visual indicator. Just *anything* that I can *see* that doesn’t require a Dye-era mouse over.

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              • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                #13

                @daringfireball I don't understand how the linked video is being made, how do you avoid getting the resizing mouse cursor when you hover in the right place?

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                • doctorgoktor@mastodon.socialD doctorgoktor@mastodon.social

                  @daringfireball I don't understand how the linked video is being made, how do you avoid getting the resizing mouse cursor when you hover in the right place?

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                  #14

                  @daringfireball oh I see this is to resize an inactive window

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                  • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                    ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                    https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                    #15

                    @daringfireball "The good news is, I have a solution. Do not upgrade to MacOS 26 Tahoe. If you have already upgraded, downgrade."

                    To fully use Xcode LLM tools Tahoe is required.

                    ~"Sequoia is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking it up."

                    ~"These days, everyone's talking about Sequoia, but for those of us whose name doesn't happen to be Rockefeller, finally there's some good news: Tahoe."

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                    • zero101@mastodon.socialZ zero101@mastodon.social

                      @daringfireball @gruber - regarding your advice at the end of the article: "Do not upgrade to MacOS 26 Tahoe. If you have already upgraded, downgrade."

                      How does that play out into the future? Hope Apple fixes all of the design issues at some point this year? An expectation that MacOS 27 is better, and users should just skip Tahoe? Obviously, people can't just stay on Sequoia *forever*

                      Genuinely asking and curious what your longterm plan is.

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                      #16

                      @zero101 The upgrade path is towards Linux, obviously.
                      /scnr

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                      • garyeckstein@urbanists.socialG garyeckstein@urbanists.social

                        @daringfireball I am not sure I understand this complaint. I get a two-ended arrow when I hover over the target area to resize—diagonal on the corner, horizontal on the sides and vertical on the bottom and top. Maybe a bit less clear than an always present indicator, but it works fine for me.

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                        #17

                        @GaryEckstein @daringfireball yeah, but point is that on 26, 75% of the “target area” is NOT actually on the window. It’s the invisible negative space where the window border isn’t visible. And if they want the target area to be part of the invisible corner, that would be fine. But, they didn’t expand the grabber target to the actual visible window edge except for a very small part. They should have made several pixels all around the border to be grabbale

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                        • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                          ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                          https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                          #18

                          @daringfireball Here’s an obnoxious years-old bug with resizing QuickLook windows. It catches me daily since my instinct is to resize from the very edge—due to the little visible margin around the preview.

                          In Sequoia:

                          • Approach a corner (not edge) with the cursor from outside the window.

                          • As soon as the cursor changes to a resize arrow, drag to resize.

                          OOPS!

                          That’s right, the region with the cursor change is LARGER than the region that can truly be dragged.

                          How’s this in Tahoe I wonder?

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                          • adamsimmersive@mastodon.socialA adamsimmersive@mastodon.social

                            @daringfireball Here’s an obnoxious years-old bug with resizing QuickLook windows. It catches me daily since my instinct is to resize from the very edge—due to the little visible margin around the preview.

                            In Sequoia:

                            • Approach a corner (not edge) with the cursor from outside the window.

                            • As soon as the cursor changes to a resize arrow, drag to resize.

                            OOPS!

                            That’s right, the region with the cursor change is LARGER than the region that can truly be dragged.

                            How’s this in Tahoe I wonder?

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                            #19

                            And don’t get me started on the lock screen Sleep button in Sequoia, which was moved to the very top corner of the screen and should be easy to hit despite the tiny size—EXCEPT it will not trigger if you click at the very edge!

                            Who needs Fitt’s Law??

                            (I have little hope of this being better in Tahoe, which I’m not installing. But some Tahoe-y problems go back years.)

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                            • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                              ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                              https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                              #20

                              @daringfireball “In my day we could resize windows the same way you can resize your dinner plate!“

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                              • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                                ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                                https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                                #21

                                @daringfireball I’ll admit I’m sorely tempted to downgrade from Tahoe … Do you have any info on whether it will still play nice with all the other iPhones, iPads, etc. upgraded to 26? Particularly with regards to syncing, iCloud, etc? Thanks!

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                                • garyeckstein@urbanists.socialG garyeckstein@urbanists.social

                                  @daringfireball I am not sure I understand this complaint. I get a two-ended arrow when I hover over the target area to resize—diagonal on the corner, horizontal on the sides and vertical on the bottom and top. Maybe a bit less clear than an always present indicator, but it works fine for me.

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                                  #22

                                  @GaryEckstein –

                                  The complaint isn't about the appearance of the cursor, it's about the placement and size of the invisible area into which you have to move the pointer to activate it.

                                  For example, as a Mac user, I'd have thought the window could be dragged and resized from this pixel, but it can't; I have to move the pointer even further down and to the left first.

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                                  • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                                    ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                                    https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                                    #23

                                    @daringfireball dragging windows is harder too. Traditionally we could click on the title bar as a draggable region. But in Tahoe there’s no visible affordance. This is doubly worse for background Safari windows which have a borderless address field in that area.

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                                    • daringfireball@mastodon.socialD daringfireball@mastodon.social

                                      ★ Why It Is Difficult to Resize Windows on MacOS 26 Dyehoe
                                      https://daringfireball.net/2026/01/resizing_windows_macos_26

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                                      #24

                                      @daringfireball not going to downgrade from Tahoe but i did just set the prefs to always display scroll bars. ahhhhh 🥃

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