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@xavez @jwildeboer Are you complaining about the regulation or the enforcement of the regulation?
Where in the regulation does it say ”you have to show annoying buttons to all your users and try to trick them into pressing the wrong button”?
@ahltorp @jwildeboer the regulation.
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A andresimous@oslo.town shared this topic
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- a lot of what humans do ends up complex. It is unfortunate but we have to live with it.
- slow is usually good in politics.
- that is federalism
- define dubious in this context.
- there have been no wars on EU soil.
- yep. and frontex is not what you think it is.
- it isn't.
- that is a detail. Compromises are needed to keep everyone happy sometimes. See the first item. But yes, everything should be in Strasbourg.@krist @mfru @jwildeboer What is Frontex then? There seems to be a lot of chatter and condemnation of Chat Control, but yet I've yet to hear anyone condemn mass surveillance done through Frontex outside of EU borders.
> Thanks to funding by EU taxpayers, Senegal has built at least nine border posts and four regional DNLT branches since 2018, supplied with invasive surveillance technologies that, besides the black briefcase, include biometric fingerprinting and facial recognition software, drones, digital servers, night-vision goggles and more.
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@jwildeboer Thank you, EU! As a Romanian, I felt great treated as a second class citizen when Austria, Netherlands, and Sweden dangled Schengen membership over the heads of Romania and Bulgaria in exchange for better logging deals for Holzindustrie Schweighofer and expedited approval of the Neptun Deep Black Sea drilling. I guess "Green New Deal", but we want IKEA to continue to illegally cut down old growth forests in the Carpathians, because... growth.
Also thanks EU, for letting Western Europe ship their trash to Romania, in order to avoid environmental fines back home, and
be green , rather than investing in better waste infrastructure.But hey, we have USB-C now, fuck the Balkans.
EDIT: obviously, the EU is not the sole party at fault here, there are plenty of corrupt Balkan politicians that would sell their mother for a couple grand, but let's not pretend the EU is the savior of Europe.
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Maybe I should just leave all of this "social" network stuff to those that want to destroy any positive moments and retreat. (I won't. I pity those that seem to be so filled with negativity that there is nothing positive they can ever add here. I will continue to try and hope my mental health won't suffer too much.)
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Yes, continue, please.
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Maybe I should just leave all of this "social" network stuff to those that want to destroy any positive moments and retreat. (I won't. I pity those that seem to be so filled with negativity that there is nothing positive they can ever add here. I will continue to try and hope my mental health won't suffer too much.)
@jwildeboer please don't. I really enjoy reading you
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No matter what you think is more important — please do remember that I am a human being, not a machine. That I post here to share a message, not an invitation to you to accuse or attack me. Treat me with the respect I try to give you with every post and we can all have good discussions, even on tough topics. Deal?
I really tried to stay friendly and welcoming. I asked for the people that reply to have a bit of respect and to not use my post as a soapbox to stand on to spread negativity. But still, replies have been added on Frontex, the EU being racist and so on. Lesson learned: Some loud people just MUST be negative and project their negativity on me whenever I say something slightly positive. Those will all be blocked by me. My timeline, my decision, my freedom. Have a wonderful day!
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@jwildeboer you are surprised you get "yes/but" answers to a "yes/but" post
@krist Friendly replies are more than welcome. Sarcasm is also absolutely fine. But accusations of ignorance from my side, of racism and replies that only spout negativity are not.
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I really tried to stay friendly and welcoming. I asked for the people that reply to have a bit of respect and to not use my post as a soapbox to stand on to spread negativity. But still, replies have been added on Frontex, the EU being racist and so on. Lesson learned: Some loud people just MUST be negative and project their negativity on me whenever I say something slightly positive. Those will all be blocked by me. My timeline, my decision, my freedom. Have a wonderful day!
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@jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.
It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.
@xavez @jwildeboer the cookies are a mess. No cookies, no banners. Dont blame the messenger.
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@jwildeboer on top of that there really are legitimate benign reasons to track user behaviour and make improvements to websites and applications, that do require some form of cookies or persistent storage on the user’s device.
It’s too easy to wave the data brokers and tracking flag, because the cynical truth is that you don’t even need cookies to do that part.
@xavez @jwildeboer there are NEVER good reasons to track users. Users do a favor to you by visiting your website, reapect your visitors. IRL cookies would be extremely cringe. Can you imagine being tagged with a sticker every time you enter a store, to be checked again when you exit the store or enter another one?
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You seem to complain about both the glass being half full and the glass being half empty.
As difficult as it is for a 27 member bloc (now including a couple of bad faith actors) to operate on the basis of unanimity, we are way better off with the EU in place. It's amazing how far something that started as an economic agreement among a handful of countries has gotten.
I hope there'll be a day when it'll be possible to reform the treaties to adapt them to the times.
@skandalfo Changing the treaties is hard work (for good reasons). But it has been done several times. Lisboa, Maastricht and we will see more changes. The EU is a living organism. It moves slowly for reasons. But it moves. And when under pressure, it can also act fast. It's up to all of us to make it better. @mfru
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(It took less than an hour for the first "Yes, but" folks to show up and accuse me of being ignorant of the EU border policies and how we drown refugees in the mediterranean. Thank you for giving me that short moment of peace. Everything I have done and do for refugees is irrelevant to you because you just want to make your point. So. Welcome to my blocklist.)
@jwildeboer tankies.
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@ahltorp @jwildeboer the regulation.
@xavez @ahltorp @jwildeboer good for you
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I really tried to stay friendly and welcoming. I asked for the people that reply to have a bit of respect and to not use my post as a soapbox to stand on to spread negativity. But still, replies have been added on Frontex, the EU being racist and so on. Lesson learned: Some loud people just MUST be negative and project their negativity on me whenever I say something slightly positive. Those will all be blocked by me. My timeline, my decision, my freedom. Have a wonderful day!
@jwildeboer Let's not forget that anti-eu propaganda is what some governments do.
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@jwildeboer thank you for your post! It's important. To all naysayers: Yes the EU has its flaws, yes I don't like every regulation imposed, but the EU makes life sooo much better! I have travelled a lot, working in many dif. countries. In the EU we have one major currency, need no work permits, visa extensions, carnet de passage etc. Pay 30+€ SWIFT fees for money transfers? No we have SEPA. Even though I cross Schengen borders regularly I haven't been in a border control since many, many years.
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@jwildeboer When I moved here from the US, I was amazed at how much better the banking system works here.
Now I'm amazed whenever I have to interact with US banks on how bad it is over there.
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I really tried to stay friendly and welcoming. I asked for the people that reply to have a bit of respect and to not use my post as a soapbox to stand on to spread negativity. But still, replies have been added on Frontex, the EU being racist and so on. Lesson learned: Some loud people just MUST be negative and project their negativity on me whenever I say something slightly positive. Those will all be blocked by me. My timeline, my decision, my freedom. Have a wonderful day!
@jwildeboer I really appreciate your approach to highlight positive things
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@jwildeboer Yep, the naysayers are not completely wrong that it has its gross sides – and you probably know that as well as all of us – but to overcome them, it needs more EU, not less. Most anti-EU platforms want to be even more gross, not less.
Have to work with what is realistic. And for that it helps to highlight the things that are actually quite impressive compared to the bad reputation.
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@jwildeboer
Incidentally, I would like to point out that these graphics come directly from the European Commission's social media accounts.It's sad you (or someone else) cropped out the watermark.
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I really tried to stay friendly and welcoming. I asked for the people that reply to have a bit of respect and to not use my post as a soapbox to stand on to spread negativity. But still, replies have been added on Frontex, the EU being racist and so on. Lesson learned: Some loud people just MUST be negative and project their negativity on me whenever I say something slightly positive. Those will all be blocked by me. My timeline, my decision, my freedom. Have a wonderful day!
And For The Record (FTR) I am acutely aware that we, the EU have closed our borders and that Frontex did horrible things to refugees. Pushbacks, attacking their boats. I am fully aware the EU integration is far from perfect also on the inside. But the EU also did good stuff. There's a thread for everything. This one was meant to give you a bit of reassurance and positivity. That the EU is also worth it. Let's make it better.
