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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    @phl Ah, no worries!

    I think links to posts are automatically turned into quotes now? I think that's how it worked back on Twitter.

    phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #30

    @stefan Yeah I thought it'd be some special syntax and not just any random Fedi URL in a post 😄

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    • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

      Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

      When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

      What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

      And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

      P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

      #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

      jinji@donphan.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @rufustheduck mastodon.social is basically the generic everyman server that everyone new to the Fediverse signs up to (mostly because it's ran by Mastodon themselves and is pushed by the official app), but this also means it's a firehose of thousands of people speaking all at once with no real sense of organisation or topic, which means it can get quite busy if you're following the Federated feed. Many people therefore suggest doing research into other Mastodon servers that are around, in case another one might be more structured to your specific interests, as you might find it more comfortable to follow, or easier to find others who share the same interests as you.

      fedi.tips has a good explanation about the purpose of different servers in the Fediverse. fedi.garden is a good site to help you find a suitable server for you 😉

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      • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

        @rufustheduck I saw a few posts on the topic of "does the instance matter" and community the other day, might be interesting to read:
        https://maho.dev/2026/01/the-forkiverse-experiment-and-why-instance-choice-matters/ and
        https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/115962043884062629

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        #32

        @rufustheduck An extra thing to what others raised about how to choose a new instance if you want to choose one: don't forget that you can have any number of accounts if you want.

        Want to keep this as your main for cat pictures and whatever else, but you find a server specific to your interest in *shakes 8-ball* bread making? Can have both.

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        • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

          Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

          When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

          What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

          And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

          P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

          #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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          #33

          @rufustheduck

          also: how strict are they about things like Alt-text.

          for example I'll never get on chaos.social because of how they formulated their guideline and there's lots of peeps on there who are very ... anal about this.
          While I generally see the good of alt-text, I also see no reason to write "Sunrise" into the alt-text when the post already reads "Sunrise" every time I just wanna quickly post a pic of a sunrise and then have people whine at me that I'm not descriptive enough.

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          • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

            Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

            When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

            What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

            And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

            P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

            #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

            mandy@cupoftea.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            @rufustheduck I also joined your instance and had nothing against it but moved to cupoftea.social because it aligns with my values of positivity and wholesomeness.

            So, if you find the local timeline meets your values, consider staying where you are. If not, ask your fedi-friends for instance recs that might align more closely to you

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            • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

              Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

              When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

              What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

              And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

              P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

              #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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              #35

              @rufustheduck

              if you don't know why to move, you're probably in the right spot.

              You will know, when it's time to move.

              e.g. if someone you like interacting with is blocked from mastodon.social, maybe not for a good reason, you could move.

              another one: if you don't like policy changes of mastodon.social, you could move.

              There's indefinite reasons, why someone would want to move. If you don't have a real reason to move, you don't have to 🙂

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              • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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                #36

                Because I didn't see this in the replies, this page has links that can help you find a place but take your time. Browse local timelines before moving. https://fedi.garden/fedi-gardens-full-server-list/ @rufustheduck

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                • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                  Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                  When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                  What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                  And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                  P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                  #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

                  ginkka@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #37

                  @rufustheduck there's no right or wrong, as far as I'm concerned.

                  # got me started fine, and @FediTips

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                  • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                    Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                    When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                    What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                    And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                    P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                    #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

                    midtsveen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #38

                    @rufustheduck hi! ❤❤

                    @FediTips have a great article on this, witch you can find here:

                    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server/

                    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server/

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                    • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                      Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                      When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                      What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                      And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                      P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                      #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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                      #39

                      @rufustheduck So, when email first started out, everyone used different servers, sometimes from their school, their job, their internet company, a dedicated email company, what have you.

                      Now everyone uses Gmail, and if you don't want to put all your eggs in one (heavily surveilled, monetized) basket, you avoid it personally. But you're going to be messaging people who are on Gmail most of the time, so you've gained little.

                      The advice to move is to preempt mastodon.social becoming that basket.

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                      • sparrows@calamity.worldS sparrows@calamity.world

                        @rufustheduck So, when email first started out, everyone used different servers, sometimes from their school, their job, their internet company, a dedicated email company, what have you.

                        Now everyone uses Gmail, and if you don't want to put all your eggs in one (heavily surveilled, monetized) basket, you avoid it personally. But you're going to be messaging people who are on Gmail most of the time, so you've gained little.

                        The advice to move is to preempt mastodon.social becoming that basket.

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                        #40

                        @rufustheduck That's the generic, big picture why.

                        Benefits of being on mastodon.social for you:

                        Biggest view of the fediverse, developers very much focused on your server, unlikely to shutdown, a 'little bit of everything' experience.

                        Downsides of staying:

                        Too big for thoughtful moderation, no particular relevance to any specific hobby or interest, too large for the local timeline to be anything other than a firehose of random conversation fragments.

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                        • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                          Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                          When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                          What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                          And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                          P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                          #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

                          fulanigirl@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #41

                          @rufustheduck The size of the server doesn't matter and it doesn't limit who you can interact with. But if you are feeling uncomfortable on it, check out fedi.tips, https://fedi.tips/, they have great guides for using Mastodon.

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                          • fulanigirl@mstdn.socialF fulanigirl@mstdn.social

                            @rufustheduck The size of the server doesn't matter and it doesn't limit who you can interact with. But if you are feeling uncomfortable on it, check out fedi.tips, https://fedi.tips/, they have great guides for using Mastodon.

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                            #42

                            @fulanigirl @rufustheduck you say that but some servers have blocked others and some people block whole servers so it can do. But in the main with nice servers with good moderation you'll be fine. I have 4 accounts. You don't need to have multiple but there's nothing to stop you

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                            • kerrymitchell@mastodon.socialK kerrymitchell@mastodon.social

                              @zombie042 @rufustheduck I’d suggest browsing interest-focused instances before moving (by visiting https://infosec.exchange/public/local) for example. Some instances have unusually restrictive moderation, or their funding is shaky, or they’re dominated by a few posters.

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                              #43

                              @KerryMitchell @zombie042 @rufustheduck

                              Thank you for posting this! I've been saying that I would love to browse the feeds of other servers, but I'd never found a way to do so. Maybe it's because I'm usually on my app (Tusky)?

                              Do you know if this /public/local is a standard feature of server's web interfaces?

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                              • caiocgo@social.vivaldi.netC caiocgo@social.vivaldi.net

                                @rufustheduck hi there! You are in the largest server. I particularly do not see any disadvantage in doing so.

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                                #44

                                @caiocgo *butts in* mastodon.social has a ton of problems exactly because it's the biggest server that is also barely moderated. It's twitter 3.0 and the source of many headaches for many admins because it's open sign-up and spouts endless russian bots, phishing attacks and spam accounts that rivals X. If you hear about spam and phishing problems on mastodon there's a 110% chance it comes from that instance. Rampant racism on top of everything. Many smaller instances decide to block it, restrict access to it or mute it. Which means a lot of the fediverse is shut out, which makes mastodon.social one of the least federated instances. It literally is a counter point to the whole idea of federating and the fediverse. Make of that what you will *sees myself out* @rufustheduck

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                                • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                  @KerryMitchell @zombie042 @rufustheduck

                                  Thank you for posting this! I've been saying that I would love to browse the feeds of other servers, but I'd never found a way to do so. Maybe it's because I'm usually on my app (Tusky)?

                                  Do you know if this /public/local is a standard feature of server's web interfaces?

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                                  #45

                                  @jztusk @KerryMitchell @rufustheduck The live feed can be shut off by the server owner but it is usually a default option left on. I'm unsure if servers allow those without a local account to view their public feed as I have never tried.

                                  On my server's web interface it is under 'Live feeds' on the right-hand side and, as you noted, the usual URL is servername/public/local/

                                  Note that there is also public/remote/ (posts that come from other servers) and just plain public/ for both local and remote posts.

                                  Remote posts are -not- all posts from other servers though! It is only the posts someone on the server have subscribed to or been mentioned in and receive. So, for example, if someone on your server followed me then my public posts would show in your servers remote feeds (and it must be a public post, quiet public like this post do not hit the full public feeds).

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                                  • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                                    Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                                    When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                                    What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                                    And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                                    P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                                    #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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                                    #46

                                    @rufustheduck
                                    Your kitty is adorable 🥰

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                                    • drjlecter@beige.partyD drjlecter@beige.party

                                      @caiocgo *butts in* mastodon.social has a ton of problems exactly because it's the biggest server that is also barely moderated. It's twitter 3.0 and the source of many headaches for many admins because it's open sign-up and spouts endless russian bots, phishing attacks and spam accounts that rivals X. If you hear about spam and phishing problems on mastodon there's a 110% chance it comes from that instance. Rampant racism on top of everything. Many smaller instances decide to block it, restrict access to it or mute it. Which means a lot of the fediverse is shut out, which makes mastodon.social one of the least federated instances. It literally is a counter point to the whole idea of federating and the fediverse. Make of that what you will *sees myself out* @rufustheduck

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                                      #47

                                      @DrJLecter @rufustheduck hey Rufus, our colleague James has a very strong point here. I was not aware of other instances blocking mastodon.social

                                      In my opinion blocking the largest instance sounds counterproductive. But hey, I am not an admin of a smaller instance and I am not aware of the issues related to being connected to mastodon.social.

                                      So there it is.

                                      For my part, I am really satisfied with social.vivaldi.net
                                      It is a nice neighborhood.

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                                      • rufustheduck@mastodon.socialR rufustheduck@mastodon.social

                                        Hello #Mastodon - I need advice

                                        When I signed up 3 weeks ago, I joined a server without knowing what I was doing. Some have suggested that I might be better on another, but I am lost and confused

                                        What are the benefits of moving? What are the benefits of staying?

                                        And if I do move, where should I go? I know nothing - so your subjective recommendations & insights would be much appreciated

                                        P.S. Here’s a picture of my cat, Max, looking confused - like me

                                        #fediverse #cats #CatsOfMastodon

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                                        #48

                                        @rufustheduck Think of instances like little territories, and they all have telephone lines connecting them. Each territory can be a different size and has its own admin and mods, and those admins can choose to close the phone lines to other instances if they don't like how they're run.

                                        I haven't seen many issues on mastodon.social and I've seen no racism, but I do think some other instance owners/mods get upset because they have less influence, but also can't cut it off because of its size.

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                                        • caiocgo@social.vivaldi.netC caiocgo@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @DrJLecter @rufustheduck hey Rufus, our colleague James has a very strong point here. I was not aware of other instances blocking mastodon.social

                                          In my opinion blocking the largest instance sounds counterproductive. But hey, I am not an admin of a smaller instance and I am not aware of the issues related to being connected to mastodon.social.

                                          So there it is.

                                          For my part, I am really satisfied with social.vivaldi.net
                                          It is a nice neighborhood.

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                                          #49

                                          @caiocgo 😁😅 I love the Vivaldi browser and if I hadn't already joined a nice instance I probably would have gone to Vivaldi 😎 @rufustheduck

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