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🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage.

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  • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

    @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
    Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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    #25

    @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

    For LINUX:

    - it is open source
    - it runs in the context of Firefox
    - it does not need any additional rights

    For WINDOWS:

    - everything is always not secure

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    • trrektor@ieji.deT trrektor@ieji.de

      @torproject how much extra data is to be expected from running snowflake?

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      #26

      @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
      In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), ↑ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

      So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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      • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

        @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
        Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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        #27

        @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

        But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

        https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/snowflake/standalone/docker/

        20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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        • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

          @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
          Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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          #28

          @OndrejZizka @joevan @torproject

          I use about 4 browsers, each for a certain purpose. I installed the extension in Brave, which I use for test purposes only, nothing serious.

          I considered installing it on one of my servers, but my network setup is quite strange (double NAT with IP blackholeing) and because of that it would not work actually.

          (And I am on a Mac , not Windows)

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          • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

            @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

            But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

            https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/snowflake/standalone/docker/

            20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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            #29

            @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

            Why the docker container? Makes things more complicated for beginners and does not add to security if you have a dedicated RPi anyways.

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            • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

              @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

              Why the docker container? Makes things more complicated for beginners and does not add to security if you have a dedicated RPi anyways.

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              #30

              @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject Complicated? - No, the setup was very easy. And I am not very familar with Docker.

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              • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject Complicated? - No, the setup was very easy. And I am not very familar with Docker.

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                #31

                @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                Well … as it is one step more than just installing OS it IS in purely factual terms already more complicated.

                Please note that real newbees do not even know what docker IS. So being "not very familliar" is already an advanced level of understanding.

                I mean: if you want to convince people who are new to RPi we should keep it as simple as possible.

                Using Docker in a single use scenario suits no purpose ... or maybe I do not get it.

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                • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

                  @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                  Well … as it is one step more than just installing OS it IS in purely factual terms already more complicated.

                  Please note that real newbees do not even know what docker IS. So being "not very familliar" is already an advanced level of understanding.

                  I mean: if you want to convince people who are new to RPi we should keep it as simple as possible.

                  Using Docker in a single use scenario suits no purpose ... or maybe I do not get it.

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                  #32

                  @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject I will make a short tutorial tomorrow. Very beginner friendly...now it's time to sleep.

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                  • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                    🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

                    The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                    #33

                    @torproject

                    snowflake-proxy | In the last 1h0m0s, there were 117 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 256469 KB (71.24 KB/s), ↑ 59127 KB (16.42 KB/s).

                    Wish there was a way to set an alternative limit of connections somehow? Not because I want less, but because I could and would handle WAY more than this

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                    • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                      @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject I will make a short tutorial tomorrow. Very beginner friendly...now it's time to sleep.

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                      #34

                      @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                      Cool, but … just do be sure: The question I have is not: "How do I use Docker on a RPi?"
                      but
                      "Why should I use Docker on an RPi, especially if I am running only one service?"

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                      • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

                        @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                        Cool, but … just do be sure: The question I have is not: "How do I use Docker on a RPi?"
                        but
                        "Why should I use Docker on an RPi, especially if I am running only one service?"

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                        #35

                        @Ann_Effes @joevan @torproject It can give you some convenience. The image is already prepared with almost no need for setup. Versus possible complicated config and setup for a custom system.

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                        • blackwolf@fedi.atB blackwolf@fedi.at

                          @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
                          In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), ↑ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

                          So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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                          #36

                          @BlackWolf @torproject 😆 I'll set up a proxy later today!

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                          • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                            🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

                            The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                            #37

                            @torproject

                            https://mamutovo.cz/@infoekcz/115965925058027014

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                            • blackwolf@fedi.atB blackwolf@fedi.at

                              @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
                              In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), ↑ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

                              So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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                              #38

                              @trrektor @torproject Maximum after 19 hours so far:
                              In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 66964 KB (18.60 KB/s), ↑ 12179 KB (3.38 KB/s).

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                              • blackwolf@fedi.atB blackwolf@fedi.at

                                @trrektor @torproject Maximum after 19 hours so far:
                                In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 66964 KB (18.60 KB/s), ↑ 12179 KB (3.38 KB/s).

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                                #39

                                @BlackWolf @torproject
                                let's see what happens next 🔧😎 😆

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                                • trrektor@ieji.deT trrektor@ieji.de

                                  @BlackWolf @torproject
                                  let's see what happens next 🔧😎 😆

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                                  #40

                                  @trrektor @torproject you should start to see hourly status updates, like the ones I posted earlier 😉

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                                  • blackwolf@fedi.atB blackwolf@fedi.at

                                    @trrektor @torproject you should start to see hourly status updates, like the ones I posted earlier 😉

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                                    #41

                                    @BlackWolf @torproject okay I'll skip the tail -f till 18:00 then 🤓

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                                    • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                                      🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

                                      The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                                      #42

                                      @torproject You're not kidding. I was running a Snowflake Proxy a couple of years ago and would see only a few connections each day. In response to your call, I set one up about 15 hours ago and have had 23 connections so far.

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