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  • thesquirrelfish@sfba.socialT thesquirrelfish@sfba.social

    @inthehands for me, it's kind of... The Republicans & authoritarian leaning people in US govt have been preparing for this, laying the tracks etc, since W at least. And now they're running the trains. And so many people want to act like Trump is just the sole mover & actor doing this rather than admitting the complicity of those that laid the tracks (multiple decades of federal governments) and are running the train (current congress).
    It's not that it's the same, it's just the expected extension of existing policy. Like first they pass the Patriot Act and it takes a while to normalize, but for the last decade you can expect your communications to be read by the government, and now the devices inspected during govt interactions and not long after you can be arrested for just trying to have secrets on your phone.

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    @thesquirrelfish @inthehands

    When I look at the Republican budget, I see the anti-democracy billionaire bigots, foreign & domestic, who ran interference for Trump's ilk for decades to achieve this apotheosis for a #MadKing.

    GOP budgets reward their rich fascist donors. Only.

    We know the names of some of those funding democracy backsliding, but not all.

    Go after the money:

    Citizens United, courtesy Koch's ownership of a corrupt SCOTUS lets anyone, literally anyone, buy an ...

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    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

      @thesquirrelfish @inthehands

      When I look at the Republican budget, I see the anti-democracy billionaire bigots, foreign & domestic, who ran interference for Trump's ilk for decades to achieve this apotheosis for a #MadKing.

      GOP budgets reward their rich fascist donors. Only.

      We know the names of some of those funding democracy backsliding, but not all.

      Go after the money:

      Citizens United, courtesy Koch's ownership of a corrupt SCOTUS lets anyone, literally anyone, buy an ...

      1/

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      2/

      ....American election, from the fossil fuel industry to oligarchs in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, UK, Brazil, China, Russia, and OPEC.

      Koch Network & the consequences of Citizens United.

      These folks never explain how removing women's civil rights is going to reduce the price of gas.

      https://theintercept.com/2019/08/26/david-koch-donald-trump/

      https://www.democracynow.org/2016/1/20/dark_money_jane_mayer_on_how

      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

      https://lareviewofbooks.org/blog/interviews/new-grassroots-resistance-people-talking-theda-skocpol-caroline-tervo/

      https://prospect.org/2015/04/20/cost-extremism/

      https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century

      https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

      https://idahocapitalsun.com/2025/08/22/sen-crapo-lauds-big-beautiful-bill-and-support-of-group-founded-by-koch-brothers-at-private-event/

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        I also see that misguided narrative in the people who still (but increasingly rarely) dredge up stats about how many Obama- and Biden-era deportations there were, thinking it’s some kind of mic drop, thinking that deportations are the whole of the evil here, an evil we can just tally up with a bean counter.

        And to be clear: those deportations •were• inhumane and evil. US treatment of immigrants has been morally intolerable since long before I was born. I need you to know that I know that when I tell you that this is a whole other level.

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        @inthehands What you say is true. Chump just ratcheted it up some notches. But the terrible treatment of immigrants has always been in the US.

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          2/

          ....American election, from the fossil fuel industry to oligarchs in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, UK, Brazil, China, Russia, and OPEC.

          Koch Network & the consequences of Citizens United.

          These folks never explain how removing women's civil rights is going to reduce the price of gas.

          https://theintercept.com/2019/08/26/david-koch-donald-trump/

          https://www.democracynow.org/2016/1/20/dark_money_jane_mayer_on_how

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

          https://lareviewofbooks.org/blog/interviews/new-grassroots-resistance-people-talking-theda-skocpol-caroline-tervo/

          https://prospect.org/2015/04/20/cost-extremism/

          https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century

          https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

          https://idahocapitalsun.com/2025/08/22/sen-crapo-lauds-big-beautiful-bill-and-support-of-group-founded-by-koch-brothers-at-private-event/

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          3/

          These folks' tax cuts come before the lives of Americans.

          https://readsludge.com/2025/12/15/koch-network-fuels-republican-push-to-kill-aca-subsidies/

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/27/koch-americans-for-prosperity-trump-tax-breaks

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/30/revealed-council-national-policy-republicans-extremists

          Dark Money
          Jane Mayer

          Captured : The Corporate Infiltration of American Democracy
          Sheldon Whitehouse, Melanie Wachtell
          Harvard Business Review Press

          Dark Towers: Deutsche Bank, Donald Trump, and an Epic Trail of Destruction
          David Enrich

          Rockbridge Network

          These folks never explain how attacking Somali immigrants is going to lower housing costs.

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          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

            Please remember them. Remember them, and then remember what they died for: fighting a much larger danger. Remember what they were fighting, •see• it, and •act•.

            Do not let their deaths be in vain by making their deaths the only thing you see.

            /end

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            @inthehands

            It's kinda the same, in the way a hatching coccoon of a hideous bloodsucking monster is the same as its hideous bloodsucking larva. Same species, different stage.

            It's been incubating. The larva was smaller, and not as often biting at white skin-- but it was a sign, proof, of awful things left unchecked and hungrily growing stronger. It's accelerating, getting bolder and testing where it has or hasn't built up enough political and social infrastructure to bring the hammer down in earnest.

            And it has a great many nests and a great many stinging tentacles.

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              3/

              These folks' tax cuts come before the lives of Americans.

              https://readsludge.com/2025/12/15/koch-network-fuels-republican-push-to-kill-aca-subsidies/

              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/27/koch-americans-for-prosperity-trump-tax-breaks

              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/30/revealed-council-national-policy-republicans-extremists

              Dark Money
              Jane Mayer

              Captured : The Corporate Infiltration of American Democracy
              Sheldon Whitehouse, Melanie Wachtell
              Harvard Business Review Press

              Dark Towers: Deutsche Bank, Donald Trump, and an Epic Trail of Destruction
              David Enrich

              Rockbridge Network

              These folks never explain how attacking Somali immigrants is going to lower housing costs.

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              4/

              For purported bigots, they sure take a lot of money from Asian oligarchs.

              For apparent islamophobes, they sure like the cash of petrostate despots.
              https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-gop-cabal-with-vance-and-thiel-plots-eternal-maga-rule/

              https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/jd-vance-extremist-christian-vp-mike-pence-1235069117/

              https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/politics/rockbridge-trump-vance-wiles.html

              https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/rockbridge-network-billionaire-conservative-donor-group/

              https://m.koreaherald.com/article/10582591

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbridge_Network

              The NRA & Konstantin Nikolaev
              https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

              https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin-nikolaev-money-mike-johnson-1870600

              https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/10/russians-used-a-us-firm-to-funnel-funds-to-gop-in-2018-dems-say-the-fec-let-them-get-away-with-it/

              CoreCivic, Geo Corp
              https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/private-prison-behemoth-is-first-corporation-to-max-out-to-trump/

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                For purported bigots, they sure take a lot of money from Asian oligarchs.

                For apparent islamophobes, they sure like the cash of petrostate despots.
                https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-gop-cabal-with-vance-and-thiel-plots-eternal-maga-rule/

                https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/jd-vance-extremist-christian-vp-mike-pence-1235069117/

                https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/politics/rockbridge-trump-vance-wiles.html

                https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/rockbridge-network-billionaire-conservative-donor-group/

                https://m.koreaherald.com/article/10582591

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbridge_Network

                The NRA & Konstantin Nikolaev
                https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

                https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin-nikolaev-money-mike-johnson-1870600

                https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/10/russians-used-a-us-firm-to-funnel-funds-to-gop-in-2018-dems-say-the-fec-let-them-get-away-with-it/

                CoreCivic, Geo Corp
                https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/private-prison-behemoth-is-first-corporation-to-max-out-to-trump/

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                Everything about the attacks on Minnesota is intended to make money for a Republican donor, foreign or domestic.

                https://abcnews.go.com/US/top-private-prison-companies-profits-amid-administrations-immigration/story?id=124591009

                https://theintercept.com/2025/07/10/corecivic-trump-big-beautiful-bill/

                CECOT
                https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/military-contractors-prison-plan-detained-immigrants-erik-prince-00287208

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                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                  The KKK but with a budget the size of Russia’s military. Running mass detention camps.

                  Think about that for a minute.

                  Think about what it could mean, what it •already is•:

                  https://degenerateart.beehiiv.com/p/into-the-abyss

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                  #40

                  @inthehands It's the people's duty...
                  "...
                  But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
                  ..."
                  — Preamble of the United States Declaration of Independence —

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    All of what’s happening in Minneapolis is deeply rooted in US history. And in Minneapolis and St. Paul history specifically: Read about the Rondo neighborhood, for example. It’s no accident the the flagship lake in the City of Lakes was named after the vice president of the Confederacy until just a few years ago. Don’t get too excited about making saints of us all here.

                    It’s crucial for us to recognize that historical precedent. It’s also crucial for us to recognize the extreme new danger of the present moment.

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                    @inthehands Thank you, I didn’t know about Rondo. I have been there but didn’t know what I was looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo_neighborhood

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                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                      I see that misguided narrative in the gutless business leaders who talk about “de-escalation” and “finding real solutions” — as if the problem is just that a few ICE murdered two people, not that all the ICE agents are an authoritarian secret police in the making.

                      I see that misguided narrative in the elected officials who decry ICE, but then talk about “better training” and “more oversight” — as if the secret police will become humane if they just get a few new rules to ignore and have to sit through a Powerpoint about them.

                      8/

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                      Training a rabid dog, a rattlesnake, or an ICE goon could only ever be effective in making their bites worse.

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                      • knowattitude@m.ai6yr.orgK knowattitude@m.ai6yr.org

                        @Pollinators @inthehands
                        I will emphasize some of your points when I call my Senators.

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                        @knowattitude @inthehands Thank you.

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                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                          My neighbors definitely do not think this is more of the same. You don’t have to take my word for it. Look at how many Somali and Latin-American restaurants were thriving in November and now are closed, or getting almost no business if they are taking the risk of staying open. Look at how many kids are staying home from school — regardless of legal status, just because of the color of their family’s skin. Look at how many families are living in houses filled with dirty laundry because they won’t even take the risk of leaving the house to go to the laundromat.

                          My neighbors are living in •terror•.

                          If it’s more of the same, why did all of this suddenly change in the last two months?

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                          #44

                          @inthehands one of my neighbors described the alex pretti murder as making her feel similiar to the second plane hitting nyc on 9/11 in that it was a clarifying inflection point where there was no mistaking we were in a new phase. i thought that was notable. people are on a war prep footing

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                          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                            The KKK but with a budget the size of Russia’s military. Running mass detention camps.

                            Think about that for a minute.

                            Think about what it could mean, what it •already is•:

                            https://degenerateart.beehiiv.com/p/into-the-abyss

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                            "The correct response to Dachau was not better training for the guards."

                            We have an IMPORTANT WINDOW HERE.

                            Things are getting bad enough that ordinarily complacent people are getting nervous. More people are starting to notice the signs and recognize concentration camps for what they are. This is not a drill.

                            We still have ENOUGH freedom and internet capability that we can reasonably look up and find information about how this works, and what other people have done about it before. The botslop hasn't eaten it yet. Our access is still there-- although the system is probably ALREADY trying to keep track of who's searching it up and who's reading what books/websites, they aren't fully stopping us from reaching the information. (Yet.)

                            There are TWO things that could happen next:

                            1-- Full Fash: Elections get canceled, the hammer comes down, things get really ugly really fast.

                            2-- Diet Fash: Republicans pratfall on their faces, some grinning limousine neoliberal Democrats swoop in smiling, they promise things will get back to "normal", and things simmer back down to the miserable grind where we watch our healthcare and wages shrivel while the sky gets angrier.

                            EITHER WAY, the concentration camps will keep getting built bigger, and our access to information will continue to get worse. Option 2 doesn't mean it's over-- it means they're going to catch their breath and try again.

                            We're not gonna get through to the other side of this until most of us get upset enough to get used to the idea of showing up the way Minneapolis has been doing lately. That's the level of involvement needed, the energy. The system is going to watch our reactions and be trying to get ready to counter it better next time, trying to figure out how to drain our energy and make it harder to muster or maintain it.

                            The Obama/Harris/Newsom types are NOT going to put the brakes on that power. They'd be in no more hurry to close Dachau than Guantanimo. Get it? And don't give me that, "aww but they're trying so hard" shit. No. See Minneapolis? That's what resistance looks like. It's not strongly worded letters, grandstanding, or handwringing excuses. The Democratic Party leadership aren't just cowards, but traitors actively collaborating with the nightmare.

                            Look at what the people in Minneapolis are doing. Figure how to carry that feeling of being FED UP close at hand and ready to deploy. Learn as much as you can while the information window is still open. The main lesson of history, as I see it, is: people should freak out and stand up for what's right harder, sooner, and more often.

                            @inthehands https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115991953783115796

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                            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                              All of what’s happening in Minneapolis is deeply rooted in US history. And in Minneapolis and St. Paul history specifically: Read about the Rondo neighborhood, for example. It’s no accident the the flagship lake in the City of Lakes was named after the vice president of the Confederacy until just a few years ago. Don’t get too excited about making saints of us all here.

                              It’s crucial for us to recognize that historical precedent. It’s also crucial for us to recognize the extreme new danger of the present moment.

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                              @inthehands I appreciate: Precedented, but *not* the same.

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                Please remember them. Remember them, and then remember what they died for: fighting a much larger danger. Remember what they were fighting, •see• it, and •act•.

                                Do not let their deaths be in vain by making their deaths the only thing you see.

                                /end

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                                #47

                                @inthehands Thank you for writing about these horrors. It’s important for all of us to get first-hand accounts, not pablum filtered into neutrality by MSM.

                                #iceout #minneapolis #cbp #dhs #crueltyisthepoint

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                                • violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV violetmadder@kolektiva.social

                                  "The correct response to Dachau was not better training for the guards."

                                  We have an IMPORTANT WINDOW HERE.

                                  Things are getting bad enough that ordinarily complacent people are getting nervous. More people are starting to notice the signs and recognize concentration camps for what they are. This is not a drill.

                                  We still have ENOUGH freedom and internet capability that we can reasonably look up and find information about how this works, and what other people have done about it before. The botslop hasn't eaten it yet. Our access is still there-- although the system is probably ALREADY trying to keep track of who's searching it up and who's reading what books/websites, they aren't fully stopping us from reaching the information. (Yet.)

                                  There are TWO things that could happen next:

                                  1-- Full Fash: Elections get canceled, the hammer comes down, things get really ugly really fast.

                                  2-- Diet Fash: Republicans pratfall on their faces, some grinning limousine neoliberal Democrats swoop in smiling, they promise things will get back to "normal", and things simmer back down to the miserable grind where we watch our healthcare and wages shrivel while the sky gets angrier.

                                  EITHER WAY, the concentration camps will keep getting built bigger, and our access to information will continue to get worse. Option 2 doesn't mean it's over-- it means they're going to catch their breath and try again.

                                  We're not gonna get through to the other side of this until most of us get upset enough to get used to the idea of showing up the way Minneapolis has been doing lately. That's the level of involvement needed, the energy. The system is going to watch our reactions and be trying to get ready to counter it better next time, trying to figure out how to drain our energy and make it harder to muster or maintain it.

                                  The Obama/Harris/Newsom types are NOT going to put the brakes on that power. They'd be in no more hurry to close Dachau than Guantanimo. Get it? And don't give me that, "aww but they're trying so hard" shit. No. See Minneapolis? That's what resistance looks like. It's not strongly worded letters, grandstanding, or handwringing excuses. The Democratic Party leadership aren't just cowards, but traitors actively collaborating with the nightmare.

                                  Look at what the people in Minneapolis are doing. Figure how to carry that feeling of being FED UP close at hand and ready to deploy. Learn as much as you can while the information window is still open. The main lesson of history, as I see it, is: people should freak out and stand up for what's right harder, sooner, and more often.

                                  @inthehands https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115991953783115796

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                                  @violetmadder @inthehands Well said. “More people are starting to notice the signs and recognize concentration camps for what they are.” #concentrationcamps, #iceout

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                                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                    People were jumping into action here in Minneapolis — droves of people, comfortable people, white people — not in mid-January, but in •early December•. (And the groundwork started much earlier!)

                                    Community meetings overflowing. Signal groups exploding. Observer trainings filling day after day after day. Mutual aid networks popping up like mushrooms. On and on.

                                    Why? Because we saw brown and Black neighbors being dragged from their cars, dragged from their homes, stalked, terrorized, •kidnapped• with barely the slimmest shadow of due process or legal oversight.

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                                    @inthehands

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      This •is• precedented:

                                      DHS murdered Pretti and Good the exact same way police have been murdering Black people for generations. The ICE+CBP abduction patrols sure look a heck of a lot like the bounty hunters who operated in the wake of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. The terror tactics of CBP and ICE bear an uncanny resemblance to the tactics of the KKK.

                                      None of that is a coincidence. It’s the same historical thread. It’s basically the same people.

                                      Precedented.

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                                      @inthehands Much like the Pinkerton Detective Agency, including the backing of the government. We know how that ended, and that it took the public rising up and not just resisting but replacing the politicians who supported what was happening. I'm hoping that in '26 we'll see the first wave of that.

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                                      • violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV violetmadder@kolektiva.social

                                        "The correct response to Dachau was not better training for the guards."

                                        We have an IMPORTANT WINDOW HERE.

                                        Things are getting bad enough that ordinarily complacent people are getting nervous. More people are starting to notice the signs and recognize concentration camps for what they are. This is not a drill.

                                        We still have ENOUGH freedom and internet capability that we can reasonably look up and find information about how this works, and what other people have done about it before. The botslop hasn't eaten it yet. Our access is still there-- although the system is probably ALREADY trying to keep track of who's searching it up and who's reading what books/websites, they aren't fully stopping us from reaching the information. (Yet.)

                                        There are TWO things that could happen next:

                                        1-- Full Fash: Elections get canceled, the hammer comes down, things get really ugly really fast.

                                        2-- Diet Fash: Republicans pratfall on their faces, some grinning limousine neoliberal Democrats swoop in smiling, they promise things will get back to "normal", and things simmer back down to the miserable grind where we watch our healthcare and wages shrivel while the sky gets angrier.

                                        EITHER WAY, the concentration camps will keep getting built bigger, and our access to information will continue to get worse. Option 2 doesn't mean it's over-- it means they're going to catch their breath and try again.

                                        We're not gonna get through to the other side of this until most of us get upset enough to get used to the idea of showing up the way Minneapolis has been doing lately. That's the level of involvement needed, the energy. The system is going to watch our reactions and be trying to get ready to counter it better next time, trying to figure out how to drain our energy and make it harder to muster or maintain it.

                                        The Obama/Harris/Newsom types are NOT going to put the brakes on that power. They'd be in no more hurry to close Dachau than Guantanimo. Get it? And don't give me that, "aww but they're trying so hard" shit. No. See Minneapolis? That's what resistance looks like. It's not strongly worded letters, grandstanding, or handwringing excuses. The Democratic Party leadership aren't just cowards, but traitors actively collaborating with the nightmare.

                                        Look at what the people in Minneapolis are doing. Figure how to carry that feeling of being FED UP close at hand and ready to deploy. Learn as much as you can while the information window is still open. The main lesson of history, as I see it, is: people should freak out and stand up for what's right harder, sooner, and more often.

                                        @inthehands https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115991953783115796

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                                        @violetmadder @inthehands And you included, “while the sky gets angrier.” Thank you.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          Precedented, but not the same:

                                          If ICE and CBP are basically the reincarnation of the KKK, it’s the KKK with a budget the size of Russia’s entire military.

                                          Literally. In the literal sense of “literally.” The incoming ICE + CBP budget is ~$140 billion.[1] Russia’s military budget is ~$145 billion.[2]

                                          (If I’m misreading these numbers, please correct me.)

                                          [1] https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy26_homeland_security_conference_bill_summary.pdf

                                          [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hikes-national-defence-spending-by-23-2025-2024-09-30/

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                                          @inthehands you are not misreading it, and it is actually even more than that. Because that is their *sole* budget and does not include other budgets they benefit directly or indirectly from. Some concentration camps for example, likely will be paid for by the BoP or other agencies.

                                          And put another way: that is near the entire GDP of Kuwait.
                                          It is more than the GDP of Luxembourg, nearly twice Venezuela's, and 3.5 times that of Iceland.

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