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  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

    Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

    I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

    A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

    https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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    #3

    The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

    Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

    It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

      Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

      I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

      A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

      https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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      #4

      @vkc

      I can see the argument for making it opt-in, but it isn't simply paste, it's kind of a second clipboard. I use it extensively and would hate if it was removed completely.

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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

        I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

        A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

        https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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        #5

        @vkc
        I'm happy as long as I can use <Shift>+<Insert>

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        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

          Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

          I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

          A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

          https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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          #6

          @vkc@linuxmom.net I'm not a fan of it either, never have been, it's also really hard to disable, even when switched off in Gnone, it still works in Firefox and the Terminal (in Ubuntu) and you can't disable it easily there ​​
          I think I heard it's an XORG thing, so maybe Wayland will change that, or it will be easier to control from Gnome, idk

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          • fennix@infosec.spaceF fennix@infosec.space

            @vkc

            I can see the argument for making it opt-in, but it isn't simply paste, it's kind of a second clipboard. I use it extensively and would hate if it was removed completely.

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            #7

            @fennix AFAIK nobody's proposing that. On the other hand, it's a tripping hazard for folks new to Linux.

            To me the proposal makes complete sense: disable by default and allow someone to opt in (via extension or some other toggle).

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            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

              Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

              I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

              A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

              https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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              #8
              It's frustration by the community using GNOME as they feel their interests aren't considered in the development process. This is a natural outcome in sociology.

              When you use something, you typically have a vested interest in the prosperity of it. People tend to get frustrated when they're ignored and passionate enough about something to voice their discontent.

              I did the very same with you previously regarding paywalling your community.

              @vkc@linuxmom.net
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              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                #9

                @vkc it has been so long since I have had a three button mouse (with no scroll wheel) I forgot about that default from ancient history… back when the middle button was not also the scroll wheel it worked for me.. but not in .. the past 25 years?

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                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                  Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                  I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                  A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                  https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                  #10
                  It's frustration by the community using GNOME as they feel their interests aren't considered in the development process. This is a natural outcome in sociology.

                  When you use something, you typically have a vested interest in the prosperity of it. People tend to get frustrated when they feel ignored and some are passionate enough about it to voice their discontent.

                  I did the very same with you previously regarding paywalling your community.

                  *Edited.

                  @vkc@linuxmom.net
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                  • scanner@apricot.socialS scanner@apricot.social

                    @vkc it has been so long since I have had a three button mouse (with no scroll wheel) I forgot about that default from ancient history… back when the middle button was not also the scroll wheel it worked for me.. but not in .. the past 25 years?

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                    #11

                    @scanner it trips my scroll wheel all the time, I'll be scrolling and I'll suddenly accidentally insert some text from who knows where into a form field or something.

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                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                      The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

                      Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

                      It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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                      #12

                      @vkc I suspect there is a weird conspiracy theory, which sounds similarly like this.

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                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                        Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                        I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                        A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                        https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                        #13

                        @vkc I never had a problem with the middle click till I got a Thinkpad, but boy, oh boy, is it ever annoying me now. Pastes all over the place.

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                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                          The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

                          Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

                          It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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                          #14

                          Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

                          Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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                          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                            @scanner it trips my scroll wheel all the time, I'll be scrolling and I'll suddenly accidentally insert some text from who knows where into a form field or something.

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                            #15

                            @vkc Yeah, I can totally see that. The world has changed when the scroll was added (and is also a button)

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                            • scanner@apricot.socialS scanner@apricot.social

                              @vkc it has been so long since I have had a three button mouse (with no scroll wheel) I forgot about that default from ancient history… back when the middle button was not also the scroll wheel it worked for me.. but not in .. the past 25 years?

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                              #16

                              @scanner
                              For me, it sometimes got annoying on ThinkPads, where the middle TrackPoint button is held to scroll. It was a rare occurrence - but was it rarer than me using it actively? Possibly not.
                              @vkc

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                              • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                                @vkc I never had a problem with the middle click till I got a Thinkpad, but boy, oh boy, is it ever annoying me now. Pastes all over the place.

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                                #17

                                @trezzer ugh that's the worst!

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                                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                  Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                                  I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                                  A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                                  https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                                  #18

                                  @vkc maybe they got bored of ranting about Apple

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                                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                    The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

                                    Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

                                    It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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                                    #19

                                    @vkc not when you have muscle memory going back to the 1980s with middle click

                                    not when the distro(s) you like have it as the default desktop

                                    not when the other desktops are just a heap of no

                                    Gnome tried to get rid of icons on the desktop a few years ago. User pressure brought them back (admittedly through some pretty foul shell hacks)

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                                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                      Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

                                      Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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                                      #20

                                      In this period, in this timeline, at this moment, maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't talk about *desktop environment design disagreements* like they're causing deep emotional harm?

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                                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                        Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                                        I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                                        A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                                        https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                                        #21

                                        @vkc it's framed in obvious inflammatory rhetoric, and also "because X11 did it that way" is a total non-reason for nuking a feature common to graphical unices since the 1980s. But yes, I agree, they're free to do whatever they want in their little playground! GNOME has been pushing through the boundaries of sensible user interface design for quite a while now. Nothing new there.

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                                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                          @vkc maybe they got bored of ranting about Apple

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                                          #22

                                          @thomasfuchs UnUSaBLe

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